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2005 Bison Jefferson Nickels

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 Posted 10/30/2019  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list
Not to offend anyone, PCGS graded my quarter a MS-64 as well and it looks nowhere anywhere near as marked up as the nickel. In my opinion the nickel is well over graded.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Truth be told, I would never have submitted that nickel.

The obverse owwies are pretty significant.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Not to offend anyone, PCGS graded my quarter a MS-64 as well and it looks nowhere anywhere near as marked up as the nickel. In my opinion the nickel is well over graded.


Different series/metals/time frames. The quarter is mostly silver where as nickels are famous for planchet/striking issues.

64 on ultra moderns is basically what your average coin will look like from the mint, that's exactly what that one is.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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64 on ultra moderns is basically what your average coin will look like from the mint, that's exactly what that one is.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
That coin would be a spender to me. The condition doesn't merit even putting it in a 2 by 2, since my Bison Nickel has no marks, anyone want to buy an MS 70? First $100 takes it
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 Posted 10/30/2019  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
The last time I could routinely get solid date nickel rolls that were not nicked to death was sometime in the 1990s. Since then the mint must have changed something in the process. Most mint-fresh nickels from the 2000s look like they spent time tumbling in a cement mixer with several thousand others.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
@hfjacinto, Yours appears to be a SP which didn't have mint problems. They use a different die for those.
The one I have is business strike which means the U.S mint didn't make them good.

I highly doubt PCGS over-graded the coin. You have to keep in mind that every coin is graded differently.
We can't be comparing a quarter to a nickel when the quarters didn't have mint problems in 1964.

@moxking, I only sent it in because I really liked the tone. Sometimes you got to spend extra money on coins just because you like them or they're special to you.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
Mine was a simple business strike that cost me $.35

Well $2.50 for all 8 P&D shipped. I'm not knocking you for wanting a certified coin but no way I would buy a certified coin that needs to cost at least $16 when a simple unc only costs $.35
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 Posted 10/30/2019  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Solotime - your point is very well taken. I have a 3CS that barely makes VG in an NGC because it came from my Grandfather's deposit box.

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 Posted 10/30/2019  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
It does actually make sense not to have just any coin certified.
But since I was already sending some coins to PCGS, I figured I might as well pay the $20 or whatever it was to have that one certified and then a picture taken.

Here's one of my MS-65's
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 Posted 10/30/2019  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
I guess the difference is that I wouldn't send any coin to get slabbed. Even the 2 slabbed coins I purchase I took them out of the slab. I buy coins not slabs.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I buy coins not slabs.


That's always been such a absurd statement like it's somehow a superior way to collect. Following the same logic you actually collect 2x2s and/albums.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
Honestly your opinion is meaningless to me, if you buy slabs I'm Happy for you. I buy coins and I won't pay for the slab. A 2 by 2 adds cents to the cost, a slab adds at least $16 to the cost, for a low cost coin like the bison nickel it's a significant multiplication of the cost. Now if you sell a slabbed coin for the same cost , in this case $.35 I have no issues buying a slabbed coin.
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Honestly your opinion is meaningless to me, if you buy slabs I'm Happy for you. I buy coins and I won't pay for the slab. A 2 by 2 adds cents to the cost, a slab adds at least $16 to the cost, for a low cost coin like the bison nickel it's a significant multiplication of the cost. Now if you sell a slabbed coin for the same cost , in this case $.35 I have no issues buying a slabbed coin.


Couldn't care less if someone buys slabbed or raw, I was responding to the preposterous notion of "I buy coins not slabs". That is what everyone but the actual slab collectors is doing
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 Posted 10/30/2019  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
I may have phrased it incorrectly, when I say I buy coins not slabs, I mean I pay for the coin not the cost of slabbing. So in this case if someone wanted to sell a bison nickel slabbed for what I can get it raw (under $1) I would get it. I buy the coin not the cost of slabbing I guess is what I wanted to say. Slabbing a coin adds no value to me for low cost coins, I guess if I was buying a $1000 coin I would prefer a slab. But if a raw was cheaper And of comparable grade and I could exam both, I would probably get the cheaper one. Mind you it would have to be at a dealer, with a good return policy that I've done business with and trust. I wouldn't buy a $1000 online slabbed or not.
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