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Thank you Errers and Varietys, I always thought that die cracks only make the coin raised, not incused into the coin? I only ask because this crack goes into the coin and in some spots looks filled.
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Im not quite sure it would be a scratch, this is pretty deep into the coin but not like it was cut but more like its just missing.. Here are some more close up photos.    Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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If it's incuse on the coin, it may be struck-through. That may explain the sharp turn to the north. It's tough sometimes to tell whether things are raised or incuse in pics like this. As to the thickness, it may have been what E&V said. The obverse strike lends itself to that explanation.
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Looks like a die crack to me. John1  |
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After a few hours this morning I figured out it is a die crack, from the top view looking right at the coin it looks like from the Rim to the C is incuse, than from the C to the memorial steps its raised but from a side view it is all raised even the part that looks incuse so I'm just going to go with the die crack suggestions. it's odd how certain angles and light can make things look incuse on a coin, than from a different angle look raised.
Thank you guys for helping me out with this one!
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If it is a crack, sometimes with enough circulation it can wear the plating off the top of the crack and show gray. But this does look irregular making me think it is a die crack instead of damage. (Usually a coin scratch will retain the width of what ever cut into the coin. But I'm not seeing this on the coin. Seeing what he mentioned as deep into the coin, that makes me think it is damage? But where it goes over the rim, does look like damage. So The jury for me is still out on this coin either way.
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From the Rim to the Steps is all raised, I just thought it was deeply incuse into the surface but I was mistaken, it was just due to the angle and lighting from my microscope made a crack look inverted, I will try and take photos of side views and post them to show.
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Sorry for the wait guys, here is a clear photo with the coin on an angle so you can see the entire crack is raised off of the coin and not incuse.  Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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That's a really good pic!  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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Thank you spruett001, hopefully it is clear enough for coops liking as well lol, this is the 3rd time my eyes have been fooled by my microscope regarding incuse and raised. Sometimes its just hard to tell until you get good side shots to see the height of the area in question. Sorry for the confusion everyone!
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Shows what I needed to see. Thanks. Die crack that circulation wore the plating off the higher point of the crack.
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I found the twin to your coin. Exact line and year check it our.
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Seem to be an Die Crack which fail the plating coat during the strike. The time and the environment made that the zinc start to corrode. When the zinc corrode him expand the volume due to the propriety to hold gases inside (main oxygen)
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11/02/2022 10:15 pm
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