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Series 2017 A - Anyone Have Any Info?

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 Posted 08/01/2020  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list

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the BEP printed 5,000 sheets (160K) of the 2017A $50 replacement notes.


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What does it mean when the BEP reports production numbers in ''quantity of sheets'' and not in ''quantity of notes,'' which seems to be the ''normal'' way
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 Posted 08/01/2020  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list

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Question:
What does it mean when the BEP reports production numbers in ''quantity of sheets'' and not in ''quantity of notes,'' which seems to be the ''normal'' way

Good question. Notes listed under "quantity of sheets" are replacement sheets used to replace defective or specific sheets in the printing process. These are usually short runs and not distributed in full packs. These are the harder to find star notes which are typically found in pairs in a pack of non-star notes.
Notes listed as "quantity of notes" are large-run replacement notes distributed in packs of 100. These are much easier to find in circulation and are used to replace defective packs of non star notes.
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 Posted 08/02/2020  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list
@SteveInTampa:
Thanks for the explanation
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 Posted 08/08/2020  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list
Well, due to the pandemic it took awhile, but I received the BEP response to my FOIA request today. It's pretty heavily redacted, but it appears to me that, as was already surmised by the community, that the change is due to a change in the inks used.

For those that are interested, here's the actual response:

Series-2017-A---Anyone-Have-Any-Info?
Series-2017-A---Anyone-Have-Any-Info?
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 Posted 08/08/2020  04:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list
Thanks for the update
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 Posted 08/08/2020  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
Yes, thank you indeed. This is great and does appear to be an ink change as you mentioned.
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 Posted 08/08/2020  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Thanks for the updates!
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 Posted 08/08/2020  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
Thanks, but once again I do not believe the improvements necessitated a series change.

Edited to add, This just showed up on my Twitter feed,
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 Posted 09/21/2020  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Howard Black to your friends list

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Obviously, we in the Great American Public are a stakeholder in our currency and this BEP report acknowledges that.

Emphasis added:

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Due to security concerns, exactly what was changed is not being identified to the public. [...] Discretionary series changes are used to mark certain materials or process changes as a means to allow U.S. Currency Program stakeholders

Just sayin'...
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 Posted 10/12/2020  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ActorDi to your friends list

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once again I do not believe the improvements necessitated a series change


I'm a Where's Georger who wanted to know the reason for the 2017A series. Googled and found this forum. Thanks - I'm learning a lot!

If it's just a seemingly unnecessary change in the ink, then the question is: who is profiting from the ink change? Did a bid go to an ink manufacturer who happens to be a Secretary of the Treasury crony? That seems to be the M.O. of this administration: diverting funds to friends.
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 Posted 02/04/2021  03:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Froggy739 to your friends list
I am brand spanking new here, so please be gentle...I found 2 twenty dollar bills with an A after the date. I've never seen this before so Google to the rescue and here I am. I basically want to know if these are something to hold on to, could become valuable one day for my kids or grandkids, or are they not that big of a deal? One is a 2017a and the other is 2004a but other than that I don't know identifying mint marks or numbers or any of that. I tend to hold on to $2 bills and star notes, silver certificates and 'old' money in general. Any advice is welcome.
Series-2017-A---Anyone-Have-Any-Info?


And I just noticed after posting this, that I have a 2017a $100 bill!
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 Posted 02/04/2021  06:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
Welcome to CCF froggy. Many series have a suffix letter. The 1935 $1 Silver Certificates go all the up to 1935G. Early $1 FRNs went up to the letter D, so notes having an A suffix is normal...no big deal.
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 Posted 02/04/2021  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Froggy739 to your friends list
Thanks! Good to know, it would be hard to hold off spending those right now with the pandemic unemployment situation!
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 Posted 03/02/2021  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleEagle20 to your friends list
I believe over at uspapermoney.info they stated the change was due to reformulated inks.
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