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but maybe the halos around the stars pushed them to details the coin. That was my initial thought. This was cracked from a Gen 2 ANACS holder as an AU55 straight though. And they were pretty tough on cleanings at that period. Quote:
Look at the toning lines from 11 to 5 on the obverse. Hadn't thought of that. Though once it's back I'll throw some pics up. But does that always indicate a cleaning? My point is I've seen way worse, harshly cleaned Seated dollars in MS63 holders, so there is a bit of market acceptance at play. I feel this would be MA. Quote:
Looks cleaned How so? Please elaborate? Most trueviews have this matte loom to them. |
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Look at the toning lines from 11 to 5 on the obverse.
That could be the indicator. Cleaned doesn't only mean scrubbed. Dipping is cleaning. Wiping with a cloth is cleaning. In this case those lines could be an indication of wiping with a cloth dipped in some sort of silver cleaning liquid. Edited by kanga
01/21/2020 09:48 am
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A beautiful example of this coin.  It looks to me from the picture provided that it has only been cleaned on the Obverse, although probably very lightly ages ago. For me it's the stars and the date, it looks as if whomever wiped it couldn't get into the nooks and crannies. |
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Bigger question. Is it market acceptable?
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Better than market acceptable... I'd say market desirable.
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Me too. But I guess the left obverse field looks like it might have been cleaned long ago.
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Try this at NGC, if the luster is there, you might even get a star to be honest.
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Try this at NGC, if the luster is there, you might even get a star to be honest. That's the new plan. I had some nicer stuff that was going to go to PCGS, but it doesn't really matter so I'll send that stuff plus this to NGC friday. |
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That's an absolutely gorgeous coin Grape! Keep us posted on the NGC results.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks one_fine_dime! IMO PCGS dropped the ball on this one. They have been very strict on cleaning as of late. NGC has been on color as well.
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Canada
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Like Steelers, I think the halos around the stars indicate an old cleaning, so I don't "disagree" with the PCGS grade. However, I've definitely seen worse in straight-graded holders so it's worth a shot.
That being said, NGC has been awfully strict with cleanings as of late, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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Whoever graded my bust half that I posted a couple weeks ago surely graded your dime! I feel your pain  |
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If its surfaces look like the picture and it has its natural luster left, I don't see "cleaning" either. And, simply being dipped would not normally make it so that it couldn't be graded and market acceptable. However, you can improperly dip a coin where the luster is stripped and then THAT is not market acceptable. I actually have such a coin that basically has MS details but the luster was stripped.
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That sounds reasonable. There is luster, but almost none, which would normally be odd for a high grade like this. Imp Dip and natural toning sound right.
My guess is it originally had that streaky toning and was overdipped and then retoned naturally over time.
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So PCGS says it was cleaned. Was it? It still just a person looking at a coin and forming an opinion. Yes, a very skilled person but still a person with an opinion so there's no 100% certainty.
I love these high eye appeal details coins because you can buy them cheap, crack them and they look great in an album and it's back to who's to say it's cleaned or not cleaned.
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