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Advice On Purcasing Old Coins Or Coin Rolls

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 Posted 03/10/2020  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
buying rolls is like throwing money away, I would even venture to say that buying from the bargain bin is basically the same thing.

unless you are buying for silver content only, otherwise I would say buy the best you can afford.

quality over quantity, 8 days a week.

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 Posted 03/10/2020  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
This set was 75% from my local coin shop's "junk" Bison Nickel tray. I paid .75 cents each. I don't think they are junk.
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Don't discount the low cost trays!
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 Posted 03/10/2020  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
I picked up most of the 1920 to 1930 Small cents at .20 cents each and the 1931 to 2000's at 4 cents each, again from the "junk" drawer. You're call whether they are just quantity.

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 Posted 03/10/2020  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverado to your friends list
Simply put, do your homework and learn all you can about coins and numismatics in general. An old collector once told me that knowledge and patience is the key to this hobby! You will find that most of the collectors on these boards have been doing this for years and some even decades! As a point of reference one of the greatest collections ever assembled took some 20 to 30 years to build! In short, knowledge of coins is your best guide! Happy collecting !!
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 Posted 03/10/2020  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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buying rolls is like throwing money away, I would even venture to say that buying from the bargain bin is basically the same thing.


Picked up these Peace dollars at $17 each from the AU silver bin, dang I'm just throwing money down the drain.

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 Posted 03/10/2020  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
But you had several questions, so let me try and answer them:


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So does anybody out there have any good advice about buying coin rolls of Indian pennies, wheat pennies or Buffalo nickels? And if so what fair price for something like that would be....where to get them because I'm going to assume most people will say don't buy them on ebay. I thought I found someone on ebay that I wanted to give a try but I'm too nervous to throw the money out there. Also when it comes to buying silve.r...any advice helps.

A good price is tricky, the common dates on Indian Heads are usually $1 to around $5 for an F grade. I didn't buy the "junk" bin Indians as I was looking for a Full Liberty for most coins. The ones in the "junk" section had clear dates but no full liberty and with Indian Heads the series from the 1860 to 1880's generally aren't found in the junk bin as they are costly. See above for Buffalo nickels, you can pick up a lot of common dates for low cost, may take you a while to go through all the coins, but with patience you can do a set. Some people want only AU/MS, you won't be able to get these at the low cost bins. ONLY YOU can decide what you want to collect.


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I found a coin dealer around that said he would sell me wheat pennies for 8 bucks a pound, Indian pennies that we could pick through for 1.25 each and Buffalo nickels that we can pick through for $0.75 each. Obviously there's nothing special about these and there's probably a good chance that they're very very worn. He also said he would sell me silver dimes and silver quarters for 13.1 cents times face value.


Each of the above are the standard prices where I shop. Please note that the items in 2 by 2's are much more than these prices and there are some coins that you won't be able to find unless in a 2 by 2. I would not buy rolls or coins by the weight unless you know what you looking for. The VAST majority of Lincoln Cents are from the 50's and vast majority of Bison nickels are from the 30's. That's why I sometimes start in the junk bin. As to Silver 13X to 14X (face value) seems to be the standard cost. My local shop generally stocks up to VG in Junk silver, but if you search, you can find AU Kennedy's and Abe's


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Seems like a fair deal as long as they're not so worn down that you can't even see dates because then they're not anywhere close to silver worth. Just wondering if anyone wants to throw me some advice or experiences they've had. I thought about getting the rolled coins cuz it would be fun for my son to pick through but I don't want to waste money doing it from the wrong sellers. And I don't know if even going to local banks would be something that would be worth the time.


I can only tell my experiences, based on the shops I frequented and I checked out all 8 in the area, of the 8, 4 I won't go back to, as either they had junk or were so overpriced that it wasn't worth the cost, the other 4, 2 are excellent, 1 is really good and 1 is excellent but just doesn't have a lot of stock. Again I shopped around, you don't know whats out there until you look. But as you see by my above pictures with patience you can find items that you like.
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 Posted 03/11/2020  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list
I would do some comparison shopping with some coin/bullion shops in your area if that is possible. oriole gives some
solid advice IMO.
If it is my call hfjacinto I would say you definitely have quantity over quality. That is not to diminish your sets but
it is important to know the difference.
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 Posted 03/11/2020  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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If it is my call hfjacinto I would say you definitely have quantity over quality. That is not to diminish your sets but
it is important to know the difference.


Actually I have both, but neither are foolish to acquire. There are sets that one can splurge if they want to and others that are fun to acquire from the junk drawers. I like doing both and neither is a bad way to collect :)
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 Posted 03/11/2020  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Don't discount the low cost trays!
True. The bulk of my IHC set came from the bargain bin.
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 Posted 03/11/2020  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
As stated, buying from the bargain bins is NOT a bad deal. You are certainly not throwing money away in any way shape or form. However, buying those "unsearched rolls" IS throwing your money away unless you get insanely lucky. And even then, its likely only a break even scenario. So stay far away from that junk on ebay.

If you do decide to buy from ebay, unless it is a modern coin still in mint packaging, buy ONLY slabbed coins. ANACS, ICG, PCGS, NGC. These coins you know are genuine and most likely the grade on the holder. At least until you gain more experience. Then perhaps you can venture into getting mid level coins raw. Regardless of any of that, ALWAYS check the sellers rating and feedback. Anything less than a 95%, I wouldnt buy raw coins. Less than 90% and I may not buy at all. The more ratings, the better.

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 Posted 03/11/2020  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
I am a great fan of "junk bins". I could go on for pages about them, but the term is a poor one. They really should be called "single price bins", where it is not worth the dealer's effort to individually identify and price them. I know this great shop in California where there are junk bins ranging from $8 per pound to $20 each (in the latter you might find a nice silver crown in a plastic flip).

I built a huge world type collection in part from "junk bins". Coins ranged from heavily worn old coppers to AU moderns, and with a sprinkling of silver.

Some bins are better than others. So all I can say is, go and take a look. The better ones are a great source of entertainment.
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 Posted 03/11/2020  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
1 vote for buying on ebay
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 Posted 03/11/2020  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Erscolo to your friends list
Both of the coins you mentioned have not been produced since before I was born (and that is a very long time ago). Therefore you are very unlikely to find them in bank rolls from the bank. As for "unsearched" rolls, I am pretty sure there is no such thing....did the buyer buy them sealed from the Federal Reserve or Mint back in the day? Probably not.

As for ebay, some will tell you to stay away. The key there, as anywhere, is education, plain and simple. Life is not to be feared, it is to be enjoyed. A solid bit of education will go along way. I have purchased many coins from online sellers, and have yet to have a bad deal. That is in part due to my education and part to feeling out the honesty of a seller and their business.

Most of all you want to enjoy the hobby, however you proceed. Check out a bin, avoid rolls and slowly fill the holes with quality coins.
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 Posted 03/12/2020  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
I would recommend going through the dealer's bins and picking out the better grade Indian Heads and Buffalo nickels. Most of the coins will likely be picked through, but with the Indian Head cents, look for slightly better date coins and/or coins that have a partial to full liberty on the hairband. For Buffalo nickels, try to pick out coins with full rims, a partial horn on the reverse, and a full date. And like others have said, don't be afraid to make a purchase. Remember, it's all about learning.
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 Posted 03/13/2020  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
I'm sure this has already been mentioned but can't be stressed more . You need to develop experience in the hobby before you start going hog wild into buying coins . If your a newbie just starting out most likely you will get burned a couple of times like some of us in the fresh stages of coin collecting . Don't worry ,that's the experience that I was talking about . We all learn from our mistakes . A good way to develop experience is to buy books and read up about the hobby . One of the best books out there that I recommend to all is called ''THE Red Book'' . ( A Guide to United States coins ). Good luck and have fun .
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