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7070 Used To Be Such A Big Deal, Is It Still

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 Posted 05/07/2020  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list

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Everyone really needs their own custom type set album.


I made a custom last page. Sorry for the lousy pictures.

7070-Used-To-Be-Such-A-Big-Deal,-Is-It-Still

7070-Used-To-Be-Such-A-Big-Deal,-Is-It-Still

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 Posted 05/07/2020  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrPink2018 to your friends list
i have the standard dansco 7070. when I first purchased it (good used, about a year ago) I was able to put 25-30 coins into it. I've revised a few things since then, but I'm still considering my options as far as which direction to begin taking. I'm not particularly ready to dive into it until I finish my Lincoln Wheat cent folder, anyway, but I'm very much looking forward to it.
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 Posted 05/07/2020  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I want to add the gold page into my new 7070, but since they aren't making them, it cost as much as the 5 page 7070 album alone.
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 Posted 05/08/2020  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list
I have no idea if these are big deals or not.

A CCF friend gave me the album.

The 7070 album that I was given has 74 slots for coins and I have managed to fill 63 of those slots.

I have coins ranging from very low grades to proof.

Even with the following holes empty, I am pleased with album:

Half Cents
Draped Bust 1800-08
Classic Head 1809-35
Coronet 1849-57

Quarter
Capped Bust 1831-38

Half Dollars
Capped Bust 1807-36 »Lettered Edge
Capped Bust 1836-39 »Reeded Edge
Liberty Seated 1839-65 »No Motto
Liberty Seated 1866-91 »Motto

Silver Dollars
Liberty Seated 1840-65 »No Motto
Liberty Seated 1866-73 »Motto
Trade 1873-83
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 Posted 05/08/2020  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The nice thing about the 7070 is that it is a fairly complete 19th an 20th century type set and it IS doable because the really expensive coins have been left out. As I pointed out the set can be completed at a reasonable cost over not too long a time, and if that VF Classic head cent scares you off drop it to a Fine and trim several hundred dollars off. The one F coin in an otherwise VF and better set is not going to look out of place and the set will still be an accomplishment to be proud of.

Just be glad you aren't doing the old Whitman US type coin albumn I started with. It is 111 coins including ALL the 18th century types. SO you need a 1793 Half Cent, a chain cent, a 93 wreath cent, a Liberty cap cent, none of which are in the 7070. Of course the WORST coin in that albumn is the Draped bust small eagle half dollar, 1796 - 97, that's a coin that's $30,000 in AG.
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Just be glad you aren't doing the old Whitman US type coin albumn I started with...
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 Posted 05/11/2020  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add benv to your friends list

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Just be glad you aren't doing the old Whitman US type coin albumn I started with. It is 111 coins including ALL the 18th century types. SO you need a 1793 Half Cent, a chain cent, a 93 wreath cent, a Liberty cap cent, none of which are in the 7070. Of course the WORST coin in that albumn is the Draped bust small eagle half dollar, 1796 - 97, that's a coin that's $30,000 in AG.

Those poor collectors, I wonder if anyone actually finished it?
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 Posted 05/11/2020  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list
I have a virtual 7070 album, with two versions. The first one has the same slots as a real 7070. I've posted the virtual pages in at least one of the "Days of" threads.

I also have an extended 7070 album with many of the missing types included:

As a sample, here are the two gold pages from the extended 7070:

7070-Used-To-Be-Such-A-Big-Deal,-Is-It-Still

7070-Used-To-Be-Such-A-Big-Deal,-Is-It-Still

I actually have a few of the missing coins, but it shows how woefullly incomplete my US type collection really is.
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As a sample, here are the two gold pages from the extended 7070:
Impressive!
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 Posted 05/12/2020  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list

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virtual 7070 album


Huh.. what? And it's got all the golds, and hopefully all the rare early stuff too? Where can we find this?
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 Posted 05/12/2020  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
I think virtual means you find it in a computer file. It's custom built using photo images and electronic / web programming as I recall. Very well done.
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Huh.. what? And it's got all the golds, and hopefully all the rare early stuff too? Where can we find this?



The virtual (extended) 7070 has several parts:

1. Two specially-processed photos with red background, for each coin in the album -- an example:

7070-Used-To-Be-Such-A-Big-Deal,-Is-It-Still


2. A control file that defines the output image, which imbeds the coin images along with the background -- here is a sample portion of the file that generates page 1:


//######################################################################################################################################################################################################################
//######################################################################################################################################################################################################################
//######################################################################################################################################################################################################################
//###
//###
//###     -------------------------
//###     Album drawing script file -- additional slots compared to Dansco 7070        -- use:      verbexx apps\album_7070X.txt     on command line to run this            
//###     -------------------------
//###
//###
//######################################################################################################################################################################################################################  
//######################################################################################################################################################################################################################
//######################################################################################################################################################################################################################

/# @INCLUDE file:«apps\album_verb.txt»;                    // Bring in common verb definitions for coin albums


// -----------------------------------------
// unique album_7070 configuration constants 
// -----------------------------------------

@CONST album_filename  global: value:«album_7070X»; 

@CONST outimage_rows       global: value:22500;
@CONST outimage_cols       global: value:30000;    

@CONST interslot_space     global: value:600;       // number of extra columns between coin slots  
@CONST intercoin_space     global: value:60;        // number of columns bewteen obverse and reverse coin slots/images

@CONST bg_color_r          global: value:32;        // 2:3:4 blue
@CONST bg_color_g          global: value:48;   
@CONST bg_color_b          global: value:64;

//@CONST bg_color_r        global: value:20;        // 1:3:2 green
//@CONST bg_color_g        global: value:60;   
//@CONST bg_color_b        global: value:40;    

//@CONST bg_color_r        global: value:64;        // 4:3:2 brown
//@CONST bg_color_g        global: value:48;
//@CONST bg_color_b        global: value:32;

//@CONST bg_color_r        global: value:70;        // 7:6:5 brown
//@CONST bg_color_g        global: value:60;
//@CONST bg_color_b        global: value:50;

// ----------------------------------------------

/# @INCLUDE file:«apps\album_config.txt»;                   // Bring in common configuration constants and global variables   
            
                                            
// (local) variables used in this file
// ------------------------------------

@VAR   extra_1 extra_2; 

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////                                                                               
    @start_page 1000;  ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    extra_interline_space = 1100;                                

    @title_line  «--------------------------------------  Half Cents --------------------------------------»      ;      

    extra_1 extra_2 = @horiz_space(5, 22.0 + 23.5 + 23.5 + 23.5 + 23.0, 250, 0);    
    @coin_line  23.5   ;                                                          extra_interslot_space = extra_1;
    
    @coin_slot  22.0   "Liberty Cap - facing left\n1793" ;                        extra_interslot_space = extra_2; 

    @coin_slot  23.5   "Liberty Cap - facing right\n1794-1797" ;      

    @coin_slot  23.5   "Draped Bust\n1800-1808" ;      
    @coin_image        R«1806_US_United_States_1`2cent_1o_DPP_2015_04_19_0037_alb.tif»
                       R«1806_US_United_States_1`2cent_1r_DPP_2015_04_19_0038_alb.tif»;  

    @coin_slot  23.5   "Classic Head\n1809-1836";  
    @coin_image        R«1825_US_United_States_1`2cent_1o_DPP_2015_08_07__0027_alb.tif»
                       R«1825_US_United_States_1`2cent_1r_DPP_2015_08_07__0028_alb.tif»; 
                                   
    @coin_slot  23.0   "Braided Hair\n1840-1857"; 
    @coin_image        R«1851_US_United_States_1`2cent_1o_DPP_2015_04_19_0035_alb.tif»
                       R«1851_US_United_States_1`2cent_1r_DPP_2015_04_19_0036_alb.tif»;            
        
    // ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    
    @title_line  «------------------------------------ Large Cents ------------------------------------»  ;

    extra_1 extra_2 = @horiz_space(4, 27.0 + 28.0 + 29.0 + 29.0, 450, 0);    
    @coin_line  29.0   ;                                                   extra_interslot_space = extra_1;

    @coin_slot  27.0   "Flowing Hair - chain\n1793";                       extra_interslot_space = extra_2;

    @coin_slot  28.0   "Flowing Hair - wreath\n1793";

    @coin_slot  29.0   "Liberty Cap\n1793-1796";

    @coin_slot  29.0   "Draped Bust - style 1 hair\n1796-1800" ;  
 
    // --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    extra_1 extra_2 = @horiz_space(4, 29.0 + 29.0 + 29.0 + 27.5, 550, 0);   
    @coin_line  29.0   ;                                                      extra_interslot_space = extra_1;

    @coin_slot  29.0   "Draped Bust - style 2 hair\n1798-1807" ;              extra_interslot_space = extra_2;      
    @coin_image        «1803_US_United_States_1cent_1o_DPP_2015_08_24__0064_alb.tif»
                       «1803_US_United_States_1cent_1r_DPP_2015_08_24__0065_alb.tif»;  
    
    @coin_slot  29.0   "Classic Head\n1808-1814";              
    @coin_image        «1812_US_United_States_1cent_1o_DPP_2015_08_05__0003_alb.tif»
                       «1812_US_United_States_1cent_1r_DPP_2015_08_05__0004_alb.tif»; 
                                    
    @coin_slot  29.0   "Matron Head\n1816-1835";
    @coin_image        «1820_US_United_States_1cent_1o_DPP_2015_08_09__0007_alb.tif»
                       «1820_US_United_States_1cent_1r_DPP_2015_08_09__0008_alb.tif»;  
    
    @coin_slot  27.5   "Young Head - plain cord\n1835-1837";
    
    // --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    extra_1 extra_2 = @horiz_space(3, 27.5 + 27.5 + 27.5, 1400, 0);
    @coin_line  27.5   ;                                                     extra_interslot_space = extra_1;
 
    @coin_slot  27.5   "Young Head - beaded cord\n1837-1839";                extra_interslot_space = extra_2; 
                                 
    @coin_slot  27.5   "Braided Hair - petite head\n1839-1843";  

    @coin_slot  27.5   "Braided Hair - mature head\n1843-1857"; 
    @coin_image        «1850_US_United_States_1cent_1o_DPP_2015_08_27__0053_alb.tif»
                       «1850_US_United_States_1cent_1r_DPP_2015_08_27__0054_alb.tif»;       
           

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////  
    @end_page;        ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////            


3. An interpreter program that reads the control file and calls windows GDI+ APIs to draw the images and write the output .tiff files. This program is saved out at GitHub:

https://github.com/dufferprog/verbexx


The version out on GitHub may be slightly obsolete? Getting all this to run on your computer would not be trivial.

4.When you type in the verbexx command, the program generates 16 .tiff files, one for each page in the virtual extended 7070. The files are about 2GB each, (30000 x 22500 pixels). Here is page 1, reduced to a small jpg file for upload:

7070-Used-To-Be-Such-A-Big-Deal,-Is-It-Still

Pages 7 and 8 (the gold pages) appeared earlier in this thread.




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 Posted 05/13/2020  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Those poor collectors, I wonder if anyone actually finished it?

I don't know, I'm still 11 coins away from finishing it. I think if I am lucky I might be able to get about 5 more eventually
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 Posted 05/13/2020  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list

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The virtual (extended) 7070 has several parts


Wow thank you for all that, was hoping it was a simple app, where you just upload photos and it would auto-create your type set. Any app coders in here? :)
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