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Roman Coins Of The Second Tetrarchy And Later, 305-324

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 Posted 06/10/2020  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
As always very impressive work.
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 Posted 06/10/2020  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list

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I had hoped to expand my reverse types last weekend by bidding on a FORTVNA REDVCI of Maximianus (1st tetrarchy) but I was astounded when it sold for 445£


I can't tell you why the winning bidder bid so high for sure, but that coin was different from the normal type because Fortuna was holding a patera instead of a rudder and her headdress was unusual. It looked more like Genio than Fortuna.
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 Posted 06/10/2020  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Certainly a novel depiction of Fortuna
As you noticed ( and I didn't ! )
A patera and
Turreted ? That is unusual
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 Posted 06/11/2020  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
Is this the same Obverse die as the Constantius as Augustus from above?

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If so then I am worried about the authenticity of that coin
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 Posted 06/11/2020  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Different as it is 'big' Max
A rather ordinary Trier (style) bare bust right portrait
Every indication seeming to indicate that it is genuine
But
With modern advances in deception becoming so troublesome .......


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 Posted 06/11/2020  10:12 am  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list
Martin is talking about these two; which do look like matches.


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 Posted 06/11/2020  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
They most certainly do !
And by the grace of Fortuna .......
Not yet paid for !
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 Posted 06/14/2020  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
@augustus1.....Great work!...I use your pages all the time when deciphering max/val/gal coins..
Easy to use and always comes up trumps so thanks...

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Show us something related!

Here's one of my favourites...
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 Posted 06/14/2020  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list
Really impressive work!

Here is a Severus II from Lugdunum (1st officina), a nummus/follis, 10.9 g, 305-06:
FLavius VALerius SEVERVS NOBilissimus Cæsar / GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI

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 Posted 06/14/2020  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Good to see more coins posted
I have more than a few to chose from but I picked 3 of my favorites
During the second tetrarchy weights began their inevitable decline over the following decades
I try to make my purchases based on 'looks' and take into consideration weight
These 3 (all GENIO POPVLI ROMANI) made the grade !

Billon Follis Lugdunum
IMP CONSTANTIVS AVG
28mm 10.29grams
AD 305-6

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Billon Follis London
SEVERVS NOBILISSIMVS CAESAR
27-30mm 10.38 grams
AD 305-6

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Lastly representing the 3rd Tetrarchy
(and still my reigning weight champion !)

Billon Follis Heraklea
FL VAL CONSTANTINVS NOB CAES
28-9mm 12.41 grams
AD 306-7

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The last one a bit weak on the 'good looks' side
But sometimes size really does matter !
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 Posted 06/14/2020  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list
here's a Maximinus II I just won


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Maximinus II
A.D. 308
26mm 6.1g
GAL VAL MAXIMINVS NOB CAES; laureate head right.
VIRTVS MILITVM; camp-gate with portcullis surmounted by four turrets.
In ex. MKΓ
RIC VI Cyzicus 40
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That is a very interesting one of Maximinus II
In AD 308 Max got demoted back to Caesar at the Conference of Carnuntum by Diocletian who also forced
Maximianus to retired for the second time !
No mean feat that !
It left a lot of hurt feelings and didn't last very long
This issue must be quite rare
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An amazingly detailed resource, and the single link makes it so easy to access the data. Many thanks for making this huge effort available to all.

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What a beautiful and large camp-gate!
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 Posted 06/16/2020  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Couple of nice tetrarchs stopped by for tea yesterday
Nice couple of fella's
I think they might stay awhile .....

Billon Follis Trier
Divus Constantius
issued by Constantine (3rd Tetrarchy)
Obv. DIVO CONSTANTIO PIO
Veiled laureate and cuirassed bust of Constantius right
Rv. MEMORIAE FELIX
Lighted altar with garlands and eagles standing on either side
P TR in exergue
6.42 grams 26mm
Trier AD 307-9

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Sellers pic was so poor I thought it might be silvered
It isn't but olive green is the next best thing

Billon Follis Nicomedia
Emperor Licinius
Obv. IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS P F AVG
Laureate bust of Licinius right
Rv. IOVI CONSERVATORI
Jupiter standing left holding Voctory on globe and scepter
Eagle at feet Officina mark A in field
S M N in exergue
3.96 grams 21-2mm
Nicomedia AD 313-7

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Last but not least
Actually first tetrarchy ......
But who's counting !
Billon Follis Trier Diocletian
My very first lefty of Diocletian
I will simply leave it at that .....
12.05 26-30mm
(and a close challenger to my Constantine for heavyweight !)
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Again the sellers pics were a bit blurred and I took a gamble on this one
Weak reverse is due a worn die
Very common but the obverse is crisp !
Nicely silvered too which really came through with a gentle washing with solvent
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