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Is Currency Collection A Rich Person's Hobby?

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 Posted 06/20/2020  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captaincoffee to your friends list
I think the only thing that sets banknote collecting apart from coin collecting (in terms of being a rich person's hobby) is that many/most people get started collecting coins from change. You can collect for quite a while (especially when you are a kid) just trying to fill out coin folders with all the modern-ish dates/mintmarks. I think there are not many banknote collectors that got started by excitedly collecting all the modern $1 district/block combos from circulation. Maybe I'm wrong. Of course I'm talking about U.S. collections. You can collect a ton of foreign banknotes without spending much money, especially if you travel a bit.
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 Posted 06/20/2020  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
I got my start finding modern fancy and star notes from the cash register where I worked, much like many do searching for coins. Judging by all of the threads started by new members asking about notes they find in circulation, it looks common.
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 Posted 06/20/2020  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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I got my start finding modern fancy and star notes from the cash register where I worked, much like many do searching for coins. Judging by all of the threads started by new members asking about notes they find in circulation, it looks common


I think many people start with change/notes but to get a collection you need to actually buy notes. There aren't many red seals in circulation.
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 Posted 06/20/2020  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
You can build a fairly good sized collection buying notes for a couple dollars or less each.
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 Posted 06/20/2020  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Certainly when it comes to Large Size notes (pre-1929), it is much more expensive to own nice circulated examples of most denominations and series types than it is to own comparable examples of any regular-issue US coin series going back to the Civil War (one or two exceptions noted). Many high-denomination notes are impossibly expensive in circulated grades if they're even available at all.

Can't argue that you need more chips to play in the paper money game.

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 Posted 06/20/2020  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
And I want to stress this again, I don't see the "you need only CU notes" at CFF, but at other sites it seems that only "high end CU" notes are relevant.

I understand the cost issue and while I expected my budget of up to $300 would get me a nice set, the prevailing opinion (at the other site) was that you needed only CU notes hence my thread. I'm happy to read that you can get a nice set in circulated condition.
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 Posted 06/20/2020  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
Any hobby can cost a little or a lot-depending on the form and scope of it. There is no law of nature that says there is only one way to collect notes or coins, or to have any hobby for that matter. .

If you set your sights on UNC grade pre-1900 coins or banknotes, maybe you need to be rich. $1 bills or $1 coins from circulation, no-but they are still perfectly legitimate collections.

You can collect foreign coins, and get thousands of different ones, none of which cost more than 25 cents each. It's still a collection, just not a rich person's collection.

You can even collect cars cheaply-although others might well call it a junkyard.
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 Posted 06/20/2020  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list
Very interesting the twists & turns to this thread...


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Problem is, you may trust your LCS more than a grading service on a raw note, but someone buying it from you probably won't. Does he assign a numerical grade to the Educational, or just CU?


- yeah, I bought a rare raw CDN 1954 $2 replacement from a fellow collector who swore (up & down) it was CU. I looked at it before handing him over the most money I ever spent on a banknote & it looked CU to me. Our CDN TPG co. (BCS) gave it an "UNC 60." Big downer! (a whopping 4 points below what I would have thought) but at least gave it "Original" (or EPQ in PMG terms). So- got to be very careful for the pricey stuff. I will have to keep that note for another few years before it become valuable enough to make up for what I paid for it (since it actually decreased in BV from what I paid).


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You can collect foreign coins, and get thousands of different ones, none of which cost more than 25 cents each.


I have found solace in cheaper UNC World currency. It's one of the reasons I don't agree with my Irish buddy (about collecting rags from different countries). CDN currency (my original passion) became too expensive about 4-5 years ago so no additions for the foreseeable future. Collecting DOC (Dominion of Canada) or horse-blankets is too rich for my blood!
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 Posted 06/20/2020  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Never buy an expensive raw note from a fellow collector unless you are both "big boys".
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 Posted 07/18/2020  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
Now that I had time to absorb all the opinions here, I have come to the conclusion that certain parts of currency collecting is a Rich's man game but like any collection you can make it tailored to you. I really wanted a set with a $5000 note and a $1000 gold certificate but even if I could afford it I wouldn't ever buy one. But there are a lot of notes that I can afford and that I will buy. Most fractional and small notes are affordable and there are a lot of horse blankets that are also affordable.

So the answer to the question is yes and no. The hobby is as expensive as you make it.
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07/18/2020 09:14 am
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 Posted 07/18/2020  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
The truth is all Numismatics is an expensive hobby . Unless your just a CRH'ing nympho .
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 Posted 11/06/2020  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list
I am someone who has "Cadillac Tastes" and... well...you know the rest of the saying...

I also am VERY picky, and have a thing about stuff being as perfect as possible.

Needless to say, I tend to be disappointed most of the time...

Having said that, all I can add here is my experiences with stamp shows.

All the stamps I like/want the most are the ones I will never own. Unfortunately, "fillers" (as in space-fillers, lower-quality stamps that will have to suffice for now) can also be beyond reach, if you can find them, and are risky as you may never find someone else willing to pay for that low-grade stamp in the future.

SO when I walk around a show, and dealers ask me what I collect or am looking for, not only do I have to say "dunno, I know when I see it" which goes against the grain, but when I see something I would love to own, I have to say I can't afford it, which puts me in an even more embarrassing position.

Add in my being female and things get worse...

From what I am seeing about coin & currency collecting so far, the same rules apply. BUT there are LOTS of coins and bills out there that seem very affordable. They basically look the same for decades, after all! You don't NEED one of each if you are on a budget. With stamps, it is a totally different story...

Of course........ the currency that interests me the most are (SAY IT WITH ME:) the MOST EXPENSIVE ONES.

(sigh...)
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11/06/2020 6:08 pm
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 Posted 11/07/2020  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tylosaurus to your friends list
I have found that you can put together a tremendous number of types for under four figures. I personally like to collect circulated type notes from 1862 and on and I have made great progress spending under 500 a note on average. Obviously if you want every single type you are going to hit a wall that will be impossible to climb for most but you will still have quite an impressive assortment. Part of the fun for me is finding a tough type that is in low grade for a low price. With that being said I do believe that coins are cheaper on average but they scale much higher than notes do. All depends on your collecting goals.
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 Posted 11/07/2020  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimjumper to your friends list
So three pages of replies and not one mention of us "ragpickers" collecting Obsoletes. I specialize in collecting only notes with a face value of less than a $1 (fractional) and in the obsolete world there are hundreds, if not thousands, of these notes and script. They were mostly printed and used by private banks, merchants, and various other entities, usually for day to day business making change and were heavily used during the change shortages of the Civil War. They run the gamut from dirt cheap to outrageously expensive, and while having them slabbed is gaining popularity, most of them don't have enough value to make it worthwhile. The fun in these notes is the history behind them. As an example, my avatar depicts a common Western and Atlantic Railroad change note. While its in uncommonly good condition, the value is still less than a $100. But try to collect a complete set of W+ARR notes by denomination and series and you can expect to spend a few bucks since some have less than 5 notes known. But the history behind these notes and that railroad is fascinating with connections to the first recipients of the Medal of Honor, Shermans March to the Sea, small unit military tactics, and even how we currently define POW's and their rights. Notes don't have to be expensive to be fascinating, just have a good story!
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 Posted 11/08/2020  06:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list

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The hobby is as expensive as you make it.


That my friend pretty much sums up this entire thread.

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