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August 2020 New Issues

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 Posted 08/07/2020  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list
@silveroid

Not sure of the contractual arrangement (License or otherwise) but yes, the RCM will need to have a contract with the rights holder to use the image... No different from the Superman or Looney Tunes series. The fee would inevitably be linked to the number of images used and the uses to which it is put and may involve either a flat fee or a % of proceeds.

Don't forget, this image was also used on the $20 bill from 2004 so it may be available for this use at a lower cost.
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 Posted 09/02/2020  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimper to your friends list
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I just received the 1 oz. Pure Silver Coloured Coin - Bill Reid: Xhuwaji, Haida Grizzly Bear. As far as I can see I don't think it is engraved but only painted on. It could be very lightly engraved and then painted over but very difficult to tell as it's a fully painted coin.

Here is the coin. you be the judge.


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 Posted 09/03/2020  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list
@jimper... Woot woot Congrats on the early delivery. It does look paint or a decal on a flat field. It is a stunning image none the less. Now I will head to the mailbox daily waiting for mine to show up.
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 Posted 09/03/2020  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@jimper: Thanks for coming back to the thread and posting images of your coin! Much appreciated!

I agree with you. Looking at your images, I don't get the impression of an engraved coin with colouring applied, it looks like colour printing/painting only.

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 Posted 09/03/2020  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list
Thank you, jimper, for sharing

Good looking image.

Painting is good to highlight details, or like enamel - to give extra depth. But putting the picture on the plain surface - not the best practice of coin minting as pieces of art.

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 Posted 09/10/2020  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list
Just received my Gold Bill Reid coin. This is what an engraved coin look like and a piece of art. Clearly the silver coin design is painted on and not engraved.


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 Posted 09/11/2020  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Looney4Numi to your friends list
The gold Bill Reid coin truly is a piece of art. Just beautiful!
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 Posted 09/11/2020  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list

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Just received my Gold Bill Reid coin. This is what an engraved coin look like and a piece of art.


Clearly the good one!
Very sharp details and contrast between mirrored field and frosted surface is great.
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 Posted 09/12/2020  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YesOrNo to your friends list
Congratulations on the gold coin acquisition, MoneyPenney. It looks really good.

I also received my Bill Reid gold coin this week. However, it has the worst quality I have ever seen on a gold coin: there are at least two dents on the coin.

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Below are the dents at the centre of each image:

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Had the gold price been below $2,000, I would definitely return it right away. But I purchased this coin very early with a 5% discount from Gatewest (about $3,039), so the purchase price is almost the same as a 1-oz gold bullion coin sold on ebay. As a result, I may keep this coin, even though I'm unsatisfied with the quality. What do you guys think?

Also, because of this experience and a similar experience involving a 2-oz gold coin in 2017, I'm wondering if Gatewest always sends lower-quality coins to customers who purchased them at lower prices? Am I overthinking it?



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 Posted 09/12/2020  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list

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As a result, I may keep this coin, even though I'm unsatisfied with the quality. What do you guys think?


The coin is great, and seems very insignificant imperfection to me. Couldn't see the dents on the first non-magnified image.
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 Posted 09/12/2020  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
A few years ago I got caught up with the frenzy on the US Kennedy gold piece, when they arrived from US Mint, the quality of the coin, ms 69 or 70 and even the packaging was much superior to the RCM products, also priced better as to bullion value.
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 Posted 09/14/2020  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list

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What do you guys think?

Also, because of this experience and a similar experience involving a 2-oz gold coin in 2017, I'm wondering if Gatewest always sends lower-quality coins to customers who purchased them at lower prices? Am I overthinking it?


Looking closely at my coin I did not see any dents in it. Even if it had dents, it would not bother me as long as they are not visible under the naked eye. If you use a strong enough magnifying glass you will find imperfections on almost every coin.

As for Gatewest coins, I doubt they inspect every coin they sell under a magnifying glass for imperfections. It is just too labor intensive to do so for the high volume of coins they sell.
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 Posted 09/15/2020  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YesOrNo to your friends list
Thanks for all of your feedback. I just want to say the dents don't need a magnifying glass to see. I'm near sighted and I can still see them with the naked eye. I never use a magnifying glass.
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 Posted 10/21/2020  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list
So with all over the earlier discussion on the $20 Silver variant being either painted or a decal on an otherwise flat field... how in heavens name can this coin get an "Ultra Cameo" designation? Don't get me wrong... I like the image but this is TPG attribution gone nutz.

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 Posted 10/21/2020  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
the cameo will be on the queen's side, .. photo's aren't doing it any favors..
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