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1805 (4 Berries) Draped Bust Dime

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 Posted 08/15/2020  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Looks great. If it were me I wouldn't bother with a PCGS holder. I think it may be struck from worn dies that may give an appearance of cleaning.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  02:16 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Fantastic coin, nice luster and just a trace of wear. I'd say AU-58. I don't see any sign of a past cleaning, but if you send it to PCGS for a crossover, I would definitely stipulate that it needs to straight grade as you noted.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
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 Posted 08/15/2020  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i have a 4 berry in FR2 and was happy with that. this is an exceptional early piece. AU58
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 Posted 08/15/2020  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list
If it crosses over as AU(58) then I would be really happy--AU(55) I would be satisfied. If it crosses over at MS(62) I would be on the moon. AU(50-53) I don't imagine as possibilities, as the wear on this, if it is even wear and not weakness in the strike, is significantly and visibly less than AU(50-53) examples I see online. Thanks so much for your feedback--the stipulation of straight grading will be very clear when I eventually get to this. My next goal is to get a decently priced and well struct AU(50) Draped Bust half dollar from 1806.

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 Posted 08/15/2020  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnjkedel to your friends list
Nice !!!!!!
I collect both labels. I would be So happy to have it in either holder.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list
What a beautiful coin!

I once owned an AG-3 1805 and was thrilled with it. I can't imagine what's it like to have one in this condition!

Thanks for sharing it with us.
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 Posted 10/12/2020  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list
Thanks for all of your opinions. I really like this coin, and as I am sure you all can believe, it looks even better in person. It looks more "metallic" and less "glossy."

I am sad to report that PCGS decided not to cross it over. My stipulation was AU(55) or higher. I still love the coin, and it will still represent Draped Bust dimes as THE type coin in my collection. I am sorry that PCGS didn't appreciate it as much as many of us do. I wonder if the scratch going against the lines of her hair to the right of the bow was a deal breaker (it shouldn't be, though, right?), or if they thought it was cleaned. I am guessing the only way they wouldn't cross this over at AU(55) or higher would be if they didn't think it should straight grade at all.

The coin remains in its NGC Holder, marking it as AU(58). When I return to USA in December I will be happy to welcome it back into my collection.
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 Posted 10/12/2020  11:19 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
I can't imagine that small scratch would have detailed it. They must have thought previously cleaned, because this shouldn't be less than a 55. It's too bad, but you still have a gorgeous type coin in a straight graded 58 holder.
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 Posted 10/12/2020  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
this is just a beautiful piece of history that any collector would love to place in their collection. I wasnt surprised with PCGS's response. from what I've seen they have been very loose in handing out details holders. i'd rather have a nice AU58 than a crappy looking MS62 any day. keep it in the NGC holder and enjoy it for years.
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 Posted 10/12/2020  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Wonderful coin, congrats.
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 Posted 10/12/2020  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
Fantastic coin.
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 Posted 10/13/2020  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
Fantastic coin!
I would thumb my nose to PCGS for thinking it wasn't worthy!!
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 Posted 10/13/2020  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
Spectacular coin!
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