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1947 50c Ml Cr - Grade Opinions

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 Posted 08/15/2020  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Looks like there's rolling lines on the planchet especially on the reverse, that's why I don't believe it's more than 64.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 08/15/2020  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list
Looks good to me too: SP-66
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 Posted 08/15/2020  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I'll say SP-65.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathMan27 to your friends list
It looks like SP-65 to me.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Thanks for replies so far. @DBM, I'm curious what "rolling lines on the planchet" are, as opposed to die polish.

There's not really any "trick question" involved here, but the responses so far indicate that I'm correct in being curious about the assigned grade.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
minimum sp 64-65
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SP-65
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 Posted 08/16/2020  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
@kbbpll your reply leads me to believe that the assigned grade is much lower than SP64.
Unbelievable!
Can't wait for the reveal.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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 Posted 08/16/2020  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list

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your reply leads me to believe that the assigned grade is much lower than SP64.


Agreed; I have a feeling they graded it SP-50
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 Posted 08/16/2020  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I guess I waited long enough to reveal.

SP62. So not horrendously under the lowest guess on here, SP64, but it still made me wonder. If you look up the cert# and download the TrueView yourself, it's better quality than the one I put through the Image Optimizer. I'm surprised no one said "cleaned", but maybe when I said "SP" originally, everyone took that to mean straight-graded. Which it is.

I bought the Cook specimen a year ago, knowing it was graded SP, UNC Details Cleaned. I'd wanted one since I was a kid, so it was a 60th birthday present. Since then, I've looked at every image of George VI specimen 50c I can find. I have pondered the possibility that their "cleaned" designation on mine is in error - that they mistook die polish for cleaning. A large number of them are filled with die polish lines, even SP67 examples. So as far as "roller lines", I'm not sure if that's a factor when grading. There are also a lot of struck-through little bits of whatever they polish the dies and/or planchets with. Mine under a scope has two that are retained struck-through - the little bits of wire brush are embedded in the coin.

As far as the SP62, I was expecting at the grade that it would have a lot of chatter from mishandling. All I can see is what looks like a couple light scratches through the hair and perhaps the cheek. I guess we'd have to see it in hand to really know.

Another interesting observation with these is that mine is clearly concave on the obverse and convex on the reverse. Similar to the concave/convex designations for the 1948 specimens. It seems like the 1947 ML CR might all be concave, so maybe that's why it isn't noted anywhere.

Thanks for the replies and putting up with this obsession of mine. :)


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 Posted 08/16/2020  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Looks a lot better than 62 in all the pics you posted.
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 Posted 08/17/2020  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Sometimes you have to consider the fact , that the TPG is not correct .
Wait ! No that never happens ! ( Sarc intended)
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Fantastic coin. wish it was mine

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it never happens! right?
Did u see my 66SB which NGC says it is a LB?
When brought to their attention I was told that if I did not like the grade, (the grade is fine at PL65) I have the option of returning it for a second opinion.....
go figure...
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 Posted 08/17/2020  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
47P7, it's not mine, although I do have one. I was just trying to figure out the SP62 grade on this one. As a possible point of interest, I asked the seller about it, and they said "This coin has some very fine hairlines.. As a SP grade, it should not have those fine lines.. An MS coin can not be used as a comparison." I think they're referring to the extensive die polish lines, but I don't see where that should impact the grade. I do understand that SP might be graded differently than MS. FYI the seller's BIN is $CAD3500.
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 Posted 08/19/2020  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Thanks for the info.
I generally do not buy "young" stuff unless it is scarce, an error or a variety. AND, most important, the price is within my parameters. ( has nothing to do with $ and a lot to do with: do I want it)
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