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After Years - I Have What I Know To Be A Fake 1964-P Kennedy Half Dollar

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 Posted 08/15/2020  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
it's too bad you didn't have multiples of them cheaply, where you could cut one in half. have you got someone with a good xrf machine, that would be my first step.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
If the metal is wrong, it might be magnetic? Tried that yet? Silver is not magnetic.
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 Posted 08/15/2020  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eSinger to your friends list
I did as I showed and it sticks to a neodymium magnet. Not as strong as a piece of steel would but the magnet will hold it upside down with ease.


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Also the casting can not be right as the detail is pretty darn good on this one but I am no expert at it.
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 Posted 08/18/2020  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eSinger to your friends list
Waiting on my scope and then we can figure it out...looks to be plated though..
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 Posted 08/21/2020  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eSinger to your friends list
Well Delivered to old address......Hmm
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 Posted 08/21/2020  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list

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Well Delivered to old address......Hmm

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 Posted 08/21/2020  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eSinger to your friends list
Forgot to change the ship to address, went to my old house....I ordered another one for now.

There are TWO addresses on the Bay, lived there a long time and just plain forgot to do both. My fault.
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 Posted 08/22/2020  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Trick question: Did you know 64 half dollars are worth $32? (Think on this on a bit.)
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 Posted 08/22/2020  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
64 x $0.50 =$32
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 Posted 08/22/2020  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list
Ha how fun Coop.
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 Posted 08/22/2020  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
That is a plus when you grow older. All the old jokes are new to younger ones.
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 Posted 08/29/2020  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eSinger to your friends list
Ok I got the new microscope and it doesn't work. It is my computer. Tried another PC and both work, go figure.

Anyhow, I am beginning to think it very well could be plated. It just does not have the silver 'ring' at all.

I will compare one after the other

Normal first

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Suspect second...

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So I know I am not good at cameras but it can be seen that there is 'something' on the surface. It is a bit heavy, so the plating could account for it. Still I think a 64 would still have that distinctive ring to it...this one does NOT and sticks to a magnet. Others have stated that some materials could cause the strong magnet to stick, and to be frank I just do not know what it is. I must soon return it so I wanted to get some pictures.

I guess this is unsolved at this point, but the experts seem to think it is plated and I can not refute it.

One last one

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 Posted 08/30/2020  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eSinger to your friends list
OK I You Tubed how to do a SG test and I have the scales..
After a few tests, I came up with what worked for the known 64.

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0.13g - String in Water

Real 1.32 ,1.19
12.6g =10.5882


Plated 1.42, 1.29
12.8g =9.9225

10.58 vs 9.92

So it is close..
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08/30/2020 3:36 pm
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 Posted 08/31/2020  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grelko to your friends list
Sure looks plated from those last couple pictures. Looks almost zinc plated with how it's slightly bubbled in the picture that says God and part of the date.

You might want to get an XRF reading on it.

"Possibly" Platinum plated. You can get those on ebay. It could stick to a neodymium magnet if it's ferroplatinum, or has some nickel in it.

If you're not that worried about how the coin looks, put a drop of bleach on it. The sodium hypochlorite will tarnish silver very quick (surface tarnish). If you used a drop of hydrochloric "muriatic acid", it would dissolve other platings like Tin.

Or rub the edge of the coin on a piece of paper and see what color streak it leaves. Different colored streaks can let you know what it might be plated with. Tin, nickel etc. I was trying to find the link I had for the different color streaks over at the goldrefiningforum, but can't seem to locate it at the moment.
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08/31/2020 03:45 am
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 Posted 09/06/2021  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eSinger to your friends list
Sorry it is no longer in my possession. The general thought was plated.

I still would have liked to have it but at least I had it in hand for a while.

* Been gone a while *
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