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1967 Dime W/Unknown Image On Reverse, Help!

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 Posted 01/03/2021  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list

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 Posted 01/03/2021  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list
They are raised. Hope this helps..?
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 Posted 01/03/2021  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list
Would you call this "Bionic vision" on obverse? lol!
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 Posted 01/03/2021  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list
It's pretty effective if you look at the pic and imagine the sound effect when Steve Austin would employ his bionics lol. If you've never watched "The Six Million Doller Man" kids just oogle it. It's worth it.
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 Posted 01/03/2021  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list
I will say this coin does have an underlying intrinsic super power that has compelled me to examine it, A LOT!
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 Posted 01/03/2021  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list
All joking aside, are the lines a mint error or PMD?
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 Posted 01/03/2021  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
The area outside the hump-shaped line appears to be acid-etched. That's why there's a "step".
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Wow... I've never really examined this side of the coin much. The more I look at the raised lines in front of the nose, the more it looks like the lines are metal that should have been in the "nose eye socket" area? Is this possible or just a coincident? The lines almost correspond to the pitting?
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 Posted 01/03/2021  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list
Someone else had suggested that as well. Is this an intentional process or just a fluke from an auto shop/industry? Thank you so much for your consideration.
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 Posted 01/03/2021  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list
I just searched acid etch coins. The coins I found were dull, sand blasted looking almost. This coin is quite shiny on both sides including the raised and lowered area. The photo's that I took on an angle make the coin appear dull from light and digital effect.
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 Posted 01/03/2021  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Semipro to your friends list
Here is a 1979 dime I found lying around as a control to compare. Both the '79 and 67' are in similar condition. When you look at the control lettering around the perimeter it actually looks like the "image" on my 1967 is raised. Is it possible nothing has been removed =, only raised. the lower portion on my 67' looks to be at the right elevation in comparison to the control?
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 Posted 01/03/2021  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kulman47 to your friends list
Middle peg of the E to me is a die break. The whole thing to me is a cool die crack.

It doesn't go include the leaves b/c they are higher up (the negative if you will) in the die and haven't broken yet.
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01/03/2021 11:45 pm
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 Posted 01/04/2021  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numiscrat to your friends list
At first, I was hoping that there was an exotic die event explanation. It didn't look like typical forms of PMD. But after reading the thoughts of others and studying the pics more, I am in the old (literally, as in done a long time ago) acid etch camp right now.

1. It explains the "step" as Mike Diamond said.

2. It explains the different toning. The middle area appears brighter. The outside is dirtier and duller, especially around the letters. On the other hand, I don't see a way die events would explain the difference in toning.

An acid etch doesn't have to leave grotesque pitting or reduce the weight enough that the coin wouldn't still be in tolerance, even with a scale capable of enough precision to get an adequate measurement. In a previous life, I did these types of experiments on aluminum. With a mild etch, it sometimes was easy to see an effect under magnification that was almost impossible to get a corresponding mass loss on, even with balances capable of weighing down to the milligram level.

3. As another member said, the area around the E has a similar line which is bothersome to explain. Acid etch explains both areas. For the die event explanation to work, it would seem that two things would have to be going on at the same time.
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01/04/2021 01:51 am
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Well, there is another camp that I might revisit: the glue (really any foreign substance) on the back. That also could explain the difference in color/toning. I realize you did the acetone soak as instructed, but there are adhesives and finishes (some epoxy formulations, as an example) which are very solvent resistant by design, and again, detecting a thin film with a scale capable of plus/minus 0.1g would be unlikely.
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