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 to CCF. It would need to grade VF-20 to justify all costs in having it slabbed. PCGS and NGC offer a conservation service at an additional charge, I don't know that charge. You might want to contact them to see all the costs involved. http://www.numismedia.com/cgi-bin/c...de2=pricesmsJohn1  |
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Has the appearance of a coin that is basically gone. |
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Yes Verdi-Care would probably improve the appearance of this one, though it would still be, and always be a details coin. Nothing on earth could change it back to a state before corrosion took hold. You may get a lot less green color, but the pitting will be there forever unfortunately. The yellowing may also diminish. See this example I did on a Two Cent Piece. (posted before here on CCF), to show what is possible with a Verdi-Care application. This one was an two night soaker.  Being this appears to be the 1864 L Indian Head cent it is certainly worth trying some Verdi-Care on it. I don't think it would hurt it any. EDIT: To say I give all my Two Cent coins a good acetone bath as well, so minus the Olive oil sand less green verdigris you can see how Verdi-Care helped to improve the visual appearance (at least IMO) of my 1865 deuce. I got it for the unusual die cracks on the reverse not so much the planchet flaw. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
01/21/2021 5:22 pm
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I don't know if anybody has been able to buy Verdi-Care in quite some time.
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I purchased my bottle end of August 2020. Don't know if there is any more left. BadThad only sold me a single 15ml bottle far cry from old 60ml or 2oz bottle I got the first time, the 15ml bottle was the same price as the 60ml was 5 years ago.  "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
01/22/2021 9:09 pm
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I would try a long soak in Acetone first . Maybe some of that green might dissolve , then a treatment with Verdi-Care .  |
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T-BOP my deuce sat in acetone for a half an hour or so that photo shot on the left is after the acetone, it was all Verdi-Care that made the green go away, two applications one over night soak, changed the solution and added some more onto the coin. I use the little soy sauce or salad dressing plastic cups you can find at the grocery store, I have a ton of them, great for over night or long soaks in the Verdi-Care as I also have lids so it doesn't evaporate. The Acetone won't take the green away unless it's recent goopy PVC. It appears more like old corrosion that has sat on the coin for some time and is dried out. Verdi-Care might help that.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I tried acetone and "Conserv" without much benefit. I sent it into ICG on their $10 economy tier asking Skip Fazzari there who was with NGC/NCS to conserve it, it is a little better:   |
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I can bring this coin back to LIFE but no one listens to me anymore that I have the process. Send it to me. PM me. Then do before/after pictures. LOL
CORRODED - no problemo señor.
JPL
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02/16/2021 7:52 pm
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colonialjohn - that's a pretty confident remark! How about showing us some before/after pics of your process before we get amped up?  |
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Already did on this channel. JPL
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Well then it should be easy for you to show us your process here on the CCF. How about it?
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Its proprietary. Post a pic if approved for cleaning by me then send. You can then post Before/After pictures. Like NGC Conservation - there are limitations particularly of course with a copper alloy such as black spots, corrosion deep into the fields with copper other than green oxidation, etc.
You can then post here failure or success. Send me a PM. Will pay return postage - if the challenge is accepted. JPL
Although I got my COVID vaccination yesterday its the Winter/ Covid times / bored. Somebody post a picture. In the meantime any questions on Patrick's Canadian Blacksmith Tokens? <VVBG>.
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I'd think that once a coin has had a reaction with the environment or chemicals, it can't be reversed. However with silver coins I have never seen pvc damage a coin or toning to be "terminal" contrary to conventional thinking.
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