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1992-D Lincoln Memorial Cent Close AM Question

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 Posted 12/15/2008  03:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list
Since there are so few of these (both the 92 and the 92d) is there any speculation that these might have been some sort of transitional patterns thast were subsequently put into circulation? Odd that dies would be prepared to create such a small number of these. Is there any publication anywhere or any source of information regarding how these might have come to be?
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 Posted 12/15/2008  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Odd that dies would be prepared to create such a small number of these. Is there any publication anywhere or any source of information regarding how these might have come to be?

Senario: It's late 1992 and Philadelphia mint is still making cent dies for the 1992 coinage, but they are also making and stockpiling dies for the 1993 coinage so they will be able to chang over with no delay on Jan 2nd. The 1992 dies are using the Wide AM reverse bu the 1993's will be the Close AM reverse. Somehow a mistake happens and a 1993 reverse die is sent to the work floor in Philadelphia and one was also sent to Denver as well. (At that time Philadelphia made all of the dies for all of the mints.) Since the differences are very slight the pressman didn't notice them right away.
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 Posted 12/15/2008  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I've noticed that too Metalman, they are both common. That mid AM one always makes me look twice but I'm getting used to it now.
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 Posted 12/15/2008  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Same here- get all excited thinking maybe this is the one, and then when you put it under magnification NOT!
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 Posted 12/15/2008  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list
lol I just found one and it was a 92p that was like the top photo and I thought I found one. without magnification it looked like it was touching but it was a little gap in between
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 Posted 12/15/2008  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list

Im not fooled by the coin , and I'm not rrying to make a Close AM out of it .

to me it would be a mid spaced AM coin meaning that there are three seperate reverses for the date .






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 Posted 12/15/2008  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I'm going to make space in my binder tonight! Wide, Mid and Close!
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i am going to keep mine also.. I was definitely fooled by mine but did not attempt to get excited until I knew for sure... It is a good thing
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 Posted 12/15/2008  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list
Yup, my heart skipped a few beats too at these until I look at it with a magnifier. Thanks for posting thread this Metalman.
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 Posted 12/15/2008  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
When you look at the Close AM Cents 1993 forward business strikes (93 Proof Close AM) the appear to spell AM ERICA. The wide ones make it appear as AMERICA. Which I see on the two coins above. I don't think there is a mid one. Just wide and Close AM's.
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 Posted 12/15/2008  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
The M in AMERICA is centered in both examples above, despite apparent spacing differences.
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 Posted 12/15/2008  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Look at my response in this thread:

https://goccf.com/t/39165

It's the same basic question, and I would give the same answer here, only for the opposite design.

Basic story goes like this: There are only two designs in question. not more. Coins that look like a 'mix' or a 'transitional' in between the two are just the more common one with some die or hubbing issues.
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 Posted 12/16/2008  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
Chuck that was my original question , is the difference a hubbing difference ? and if so is it a new hub or is it the same hub which has seen some modification for "reasons unknown to me" slightly altering it and the Wide AM dies which produces the Wide AM cents ?

to be honest I see a difference in the east leg of the M which I think accounts for the spacing difference .

but how is that possible from the same hub ?





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 Posted 12/16/2008  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
I think these coins deserve a little more investigation , If one of you guys with access to the Philly 1992 lincoln cents could take a look and see if this anomoly occurs on them also I would appreciate it .

I have so few of the P mint coins that to get a good result is not possible from here in the west .

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 Posted 12/16/2008  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
The distance difference is huge, does the rest of the reverse show any indication of die wear, i.e. the steps?
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