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Pillar of the Community
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If it comes from China, isn't stupidly expensive, and comes with a free anything it's fake. Think wish.com for coins.
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Pillar of the Community
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Actually the free fake gold coin looks better than the fake CC Morgan you paid for.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Oof. Hope you didn't spend much, but that seems unlikely if you thought you were buying a CC Morgan.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 .... to the Community! Most likely, ANY coins you buy online from China are gonna be fake. Unfortunately, you have probably lost that money. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3237 Posts |
Yeah, just adding to what westernsky said, first sign that something was amiss might be that your US coinage needed to be shipped from China. Obviously collectors can live anywhere in the world, but the vast majority of these are still in the US. |
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Didn't order from China, but the product was shipped from China, like from WISH, as noted. Gold coin, which I didn't order, and have received circulated Chilean pesos and Chinese cents as gifts before, so wondered if someone had a pile and made a mistake. Checked the weight (I have a 0.00001g scale) and it was light. What gives it away on detail. More to the point, it is point to point identical to same year coins on this site's images, so comment that gold is not right design needs more info for me. Which details on the Morgan give it away as fake. It also matches image of same coin on site. Weight is light 25.386 versus 26.73g. I have 2 US website 1921 Morgans, one weights 26.805 so over 0.07g heavy in uncirculated condition. I am trying to learn so please specify exact detail variations. Have read here on Morgans and know of many changes over the years and many different variations mint to mint and strike to strike. thanks
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New Member
United States
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for completeness sake, since I was only interested in the wing defect, here is the coin front. Thanks  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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To me, the biggest giveaway is just the lack of crispness on all the devices and design elements. Everything looks kind of smudged and blurred. This is because the coin was either made with a soft metal die or else cast. Based on some of the surface texture details and the way the rim seems a little bit sanded down, I'm guessing cast, but someone with more counterfeit knowledge than me can hopefully chime in with more info on that.
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Pillar of the Community
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Moderator
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to CCF DennisA13. Can you post a photo of your scale turned on and do you like it? John1  |
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United States
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The small raised metal lumps would seem to be a red flag to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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You don't have to go any further than to look at
the date to tell it is counterfeit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The obverse doesn't matter. Can tell its fake from the reverse. Going by your replies, it seems like you don't believe it. Who cares what happened to the wing, its not a real coin. It could be anything. Chalk it up as a loss and learning experience. The "gold dollar" isn't the right design. That's a Liberty head that ended in 1854. 1863 was an Indian Princess large head design
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The 1889 CC Morgan dollar is one of the most faked coins of the series. Here is the link to the authentic coin varieties (VAMs) and note that the authentic coins have normal and far date position listings with none using a near date position as your Chinese cast counterfeit. http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...1889-CC_VAMsThe wing is merely a casting defect. I would return this for a refund if possible. And to the CCF! |
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Posted 01/27/2021 10:25 pm
