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Bedrock of the Community
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I have to agree. When compared to the PCGS example, it's falling short. It's leaving me crave Chinese food.  |
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Quote: Numisma Posted - Yesterday : 11:12 pm It doesn't look quite right to me, especially the date. Compared to the real deal ( https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...teel/82731), your fours look strangely rounded. The coin also has a bit of a bubbly appearance. Yeah I see that too. Did the Chinese ones meet the magnetism and weight requirements? How far did they go as far as making these counterfeit pennies? Quote:
Rothery Posted - Yesterday : 11:46 pm
That ear sure has some strange things going on with it. Maybe he wrestled?  Quote: jbuck Posted - Yesterday : 11:55 pm to the Community! Thanks!!  Edited by denraweb
01/30/2021 02:32 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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The mint mark is the wrong style and in wrong location.
There are only two known 1944 steel cents with a "S" mint mark.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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IMHO, counterfeit. Every "4" is different on Lincoln cents from the 1940s, including both fours on a 1944. As others have noted, neither four on your coin matches the style of the fours on a 1944.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Valued Member
United States
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Easiest way to tell check for VDB under the bust if their is no VDB it's a counterfeit! let me guess you found it in change?
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Valued Member
United States
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Unfortunately a counterfeit has no value and I don't know if they are legal if you found it in change I understand your frustration just stick how ever many you found in a junk folder and stick them all in your Garage and try to forget about them. I figure keep them as far away from really money as possible and look at them once in a while as they are interesting but can't sell it, trade it, or give it away as that may be illegal. Then again I don't know what can you do with counterfeits found in change?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'd love to see a closeup of the MM.
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Valued Member
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You can buy a copy punch on ebay for about $53 on ebay and make a fake legal to own. Keep in mind using a sledge instead of a mallet or hammer smashes the metal into scrap oops. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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A little known fact:
All of the Allied Occupation Issue 1944 Belgium 2 Francs (KM#133), were made from planchets originally intended for U.S Une Cent coins.
All of these Belgian 2 Francs coins were made in the U.S.
There are still quite a few genuine unstruck planchets still out there. Several years ago, I saw some examples of these unstruck planchets for sale at my local LCS. Their specifications, attraction to a magnet, and general appearance were exactly the same as what you would expect as for the 1943 U.S. zinc coated steel Cent issue.
I have no doubt that good quality fake dies dated 1944 for the U.S One Cent could be prepared, and fake coins have been struck, using genuine planchets.
Such fakes would be very difficult to distinguish from genuine, provided that the fake dies were of sufficient quality.
They would wear and patinate in exactly the same way as the genuine U.S.1943 One Cent issue.
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12/17/2022 09:42 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Very interesting, thanks for that.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Edited by coop
12/20/2022 12:27 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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With a shed job zinc coated 1944 brass Cent, the copper atoms at the zinc / copper interface eventually leach into the zinc coating, over a long period of time, (more than ten years). The result is as seen in the pics that coop has posted.
Always do the magnet test in the first instance, even if not suspicious.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Ok. This it is a counterfeit Chinese hoe we say or somewhere in Asia. We can not blame only one side when we have counterfeit from many locations.
the hints are here: Reverse: Outside the right side wheat as you look is not as the design or the dies. Observe: the ear it is a clue. No fake was able to copy the ear correct. Another thing it is the weight and the magnetism (but this you need good tools to see). The normal has 0.001 sec attraction on 3 mm.
Whenever who do, those are the best design copy I saw. this coin texture show different then any Dies at the mint left marks on the surface. Enough for now on reproductions.
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