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 Posted 12/05/2009  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 925dealer to your friends list
Hi Saruma,

We will have to agree to disagree on FDR as he acted the part of a dictator for over a decade and changed our countries constitution by replacing Supreme Court justices who would follow along with his unconstitutional new deal policies to include stealing gold from people at $20.00 per ounce then changing it's value to $35.00 once he had the gold. While on the subject gold and silver coins are a form of freedom so in a small way it is a political issue.

While it is true the constitution discusses gold and silver as the only form of money for the states this also applied to the federal government. This can be verified by some of the other coinage laws a little later. The major laws were in 1834 and 1873. http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/...tandard.html
Both of these laws made gold the preferred metal. For those of us who believe in the conspiracy of bankers (the crime of 1873 started the process) we saw peoples wealth taken from them again and again. The common coin prior to our constitution was the Spanish pieces of 8 ie. silver. Gold was always the bankers metal while silver was the peoples. I think we are still seeing that trend today. Many of us believe the wizard of oz was written to expose the crime of 1873 and William Jennings Bryant's cross of gold speech covered the balance of it.

With regards to inflation in a gold and silver standard I will confess there are two that I am aware of. First in Europe, especially Spain when all of the gold from the new world showed up. Second when silver was found in large quantities out in the US West. Other than that there are countless examples of price stability for CENTURIES in countries on a gold or silver standard. When prices are stable people are able to grow their wealth through planning and investing without manipulation. On a side note I do believe that the gold and silver market are manipulated to strengthen the US dollar and keep people from investing/protecting themselves from government inflationary confiscation of wealth. And yes when fiat paper "increases" in value and silver and gold "decrease" in value you are correct. Gold and silver are antidollars. I do not believe this would be the case if the manipulation to prop up the dollar was not taking place.


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Gold and silver are essentially the same thing as paper money. An object given in exchange for goods and services that has no real use in and of itself, but allows more flexibility than is available in a strict bartering system. While there are actual uses for gold and silver, the same can be said of paper, but none of those things can compare to food, water, clothing, shelter, etc. as the necessities of life that a true bartering system would be based around.


Again you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. Gold and silver represent a storage of wealth. I need to make clear what I define as wealth. All commodities as well as means of production ie. land, human labor, capitol and factories represent wealth. Something had to be done to create it ie. people went to work. It is not "creating wealth" when someone mandates that a piece of cloth with numbers and pictures of dead presidents is valuable. It is even worse when they do it electronically. Who gets the benefits of this? The bankers who get to use this newly created money (created out of thin air) to purchase REAL assets ie. land, labor and means of production. In the fiat world all paper money is worthless except the value we give to it. We work for what we earn. The people who create the fiat garbage DON'T. Here is a couple examples of government theft when fiat money is used

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...e6940482.ece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflat...mar_Republic

http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=82500

While it is possible to do the same with gold and silver ie. make it illegal as FDR did and remove it from circulation as LBJ did at least we the people have something tangible to use in cases of absolute emergency. The high US inflation of the 1970's was caused when tricky dick took the us dollar off the gold standard completely.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...tates_dollar

The US dollar has been the worlds reserve currency since Bretton Woods because we were the last to drop the gold standard. We are now losing that position and the US dollar is declining in value on the international markets. This means all imports of foreign goods cost us more money. Oil and products from China get more expensive in this kind of environment. The US has been living on foreign credit for over a decade and we are going to pay for it in the very near future. For more of my rantings on this issue you can go to bullion direct and view my postings there. My user id is the same. I will close off for now by saying the same thing I say there. Got gold and silver? Sincerely, John Leckrone

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12/05/2009 09:29 am
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 Posted 12/05/2009  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hippiebrian to your friends list
O.K., back to the topic at hand. (I keep my political rants to other sites, as I come here to be calm...).

I have thought about this. My first idea was that I got so used to my ex-wife (,, you get the picture) taking my money, it was nice to have some around of my own...

Nope, that's not it. Because it's cheaper than collecting motorcycles? Could be the answer...

Really, I'm a history buff of sorts, and love any coin's connection to the time it as minted. Who held it? Spent it? What was going on when it was minted? I love to consider these things. I also have always loved the artwork, like carrying around little masterpeices that most people don't even notice. Works by some of our country's greatest artists (Brenner, St. Gaudens, etc.). I guess I just love coins!
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 Posted 12/05/2009  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bugzilla46310 to your friends list
It's the only way I can keep the wife from spending it!

I collect for the history, it's fun, nest egg for my or my children and it addicting.
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 Posted 12/05/2009  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrGlass44 to your friends list
I don't know I just like them.
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 Posted 12/05/2009  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
"cause they're pretty...
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 Posted 01/04/2010  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list
Definitely the history. The feeling of holding a thousand years old coin
in my hand... someone did kill for it, someone was killed for it.
And what did they buy? Bread? Wine? Women?
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 Posted 01/04/2010  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
They are smaller than airplanes.

truthfully coins have been a really rewarding experiance, the history, the variety,the beauty and art work the whole of the minting process coins have everything that a collector could want.

I like most collectors have something inside which makes collecting a requirement,I collect so many things but coins are by far the most rewarding.
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 Posted 01/04/2010  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I remember my grandfather collecting coins when I was a kid, well I guess you could say he hoarded coins instead of collecting even though he did have albums and allot of them but most were in jars, medicine bottles, cans or anything else he could find with a lid. I remember thinking this is crazy when he would ask everyone to empty their pockets so he could go through their change and keep what ever he wanted (still don't understand that one myself because I still don't go through my change, I just dump it in a bucket and when its full I carry it to the bank). He would also take us to the bank and buy us what ever was the weird coin of the time for our birthday and let us hold them (in the wrapper) until we got to the safe deposit box in the back so we could put them in there (try telling a 6 year old "here is $100.00 but we are buying this with it and you can't have it until you are 18 because its going to be in this metal box at the bank"). I had quite a few SBA's and Ikes when I was 18 but I think I was the only one that didn't cash in my box of all the grand kids and when I did finally go look I noticed he bought all the others boxes for what it was worth and had placed theirs in my box as well. My great Grandfather used to also give each of us kids a silver Dollar every Christmas and that is actually the first thing I can remember collecting because a big silver dollar was so big when I was 4 and remember how much heavier it was than the coins I was used to seeing and feeling. Anyhow I didn't really collect anything until after I hurt my back in 2000 and then was getting ready to cash in my safe deposit box with my grandfather because I was out of work for so long and I just couldn't sell all those coins because it reminded me of us piling in the car riding to the bank getting them and going out for ice cream afterward. When I first started collecting I went back to my youngest memory about coins and started looking for Silver Dollars and that is when I discovered Morgans and well the rest is history
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 Posted 01/04/2010  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list
The voices in my wife's head made me do it......I'm so hooked I even dig em out of the ground...
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 Posted 01/05/2010  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list
A mate told me once "collecting dimes is better than collecting dime bags".
I have a few ancient romans(one I might post in the right forum,im not sure if its legit)
and greeks.I always wonder about the coins I have,where they have been,who's hands they have been in,were they in a soldiers pocket during a battle? etc.That's what I think the cool thing is about collecting coins.It would be awesome if there was a way to track a coins full history,I'm sure they'd have some interesting stories to tell.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMetalHound to your friends list
My dad, he collected them as a paper boy in the 50's and 60's. As well as my grandfather (mothers side) who liked Canadian and some American coinage. When I was 6 I started and the tradition continues. I see it as a savings plan, but the coins themselves are quite cool, where ever they're from.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markha to your friends list
I do it for the history. The thought of having a coin that was around during a historical moment is awesome.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertBidniuk to your friends list
I too collect for many reasons, some of it is the history behind the coins. I'm also pretty sure I have a good case of OCD and somehow trying to get one of every type/date/MM coin helps that out. Its also something that you can collect and either spend a huge amount of money on or as little as you want. I also see it as something to pass down to my kids, or some sort of investment. That is a lot of reasons and that's why I collect coins.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coretj to your friends list
It is my retirement fund... I've kept every piece of change I've gotten since I was 20. Most is stored in old 5 gallon water jugs. I put them in the jugs after they have spent sometime in a quart canning jar. once the jar gets full I search through it and see what I find. Everything I consider non-collectible goes into the jugs. At present I have 7 1/2 Cent Jugs, 2 Nickel Jugs, 3 1/10 Dime Jugs, 4 1/5 Quarter Jugs, 1/4 full junk Silver jug, and a 1/3 full half dollar / dollar coin jug.

I make sure I never count or Weight my retirement fund because I don't want to spend it on something I want but don't need.
But it does really suck when I have to move.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coretj to your friends list
By the way we had a good back and forth on the constitutionality of the metal used in coins here

https://goccf.com/t/57629
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