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 Posted 04/10/2021  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list
Sealed mint or proof set, original bank wrapped roll, found in an old vault, unsearched, inherited from grandpa, etc.

All claims that are possible but sadly, they usually aren't.

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 Posted 04/10/2021  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ballyhoo to your friends list
Time to Sherlock Holmes this since I have a few. Will post when/if I find anything concrete.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
These sets often seal themselves and the seller actually believes they were sealed by the mint.

The cardboard was not inserted uniformly in every set. They'd have long runs with them the same but there was variation.

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 Posted 04/10/2021  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list
Interesting information - good to know.
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 Posted 04/11/2021  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PlumCrazy814 to your friends list

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The United States Mint only sealed envelopes when they only shipped one proof set. That envelope would have an address label produced by the mint on the front of the package. Other than the one proof set shipments the mint NEVER SEALED ENVELOPES! All the proof and mint sets that are offered as mint sealed have been sealed outside the mint.
Proof and Mint Sets Not sealed by the Mint


...and if you do not believe Google, believe first hand experience.

I was young at the time but my Father did order mint and proof sets (the years they were available) in multiple quantities from 1965 until he died in the late 1980's. I thought if was odd when I was young that they did not seal the envelopes but I can say not one of them he received came sealed from the mint. He never ordered a quantity of one so I can't confirm that single orders were sealed but it does make sense.
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 Posted 04/12/2021  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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He never ordered a quantity of one so I can't confirm that single orders were sealed but it does make sense.

In my old phone (sorry it's gone and so are the pictures) I did have image of individual sets that had been orders and snt directly to the collect by sealing them, addressing the outside of the envelope, and affixing postage.
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 Posted 04/12/2021  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
The really proof set from 1968 if I am not wrong ( I will go to see the database) was delivered in hard capsulated sets with blue like box. The envelopes was not proof even they are S. We can say PL maybe. I have 'it two boxes with 20 envelopes like this in original post package, some was glued some no. In the box those envelopes are very tide. Could glue, time of environment effect, temperatures changed, storage etc.

so in fact those are normal circulation S strikes.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I just watched Rick Tomaskas' coin show and he was showing a sealed box of 100 1958 proof sets he bought a while ago. He dips into that box and opens a set or two every now and then. They come out of the box sealed and he opens them with a pair of scissors. So did the mint seal them or what
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 Posted 04/19/2021  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
No the mint did not seal them. But if they weren't stored in an environmentally controlled area, and the humidity gets too high, they can "self seal".
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 Posted 04/19/2021  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
All 100 of them
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 Posted 04/19/2021  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atticguy to your friends list
I have a 'newly-opened' box of 150 #10 envelopes right next to my computer desk and ALL of them have 'self-sealed' to some extent somehow. I have to gently pry them open before I can use them.
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 Posted 04/19/2021  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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All 100 of them
Sure, if all 100 were in stored for a time in the same environment.
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 Posted 04/19/2021  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list

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All 100 of them


Coins stored in an unheated area can get cold and then if the temperature and humidity suddenly increase small amounts of water will condense on the envelope. One or two times won't do it but prolonged exposure to such conditions will. It will also damage the coins in time but they get some protection in the plastic.

It's not at all unusual for someone to seal them. A collector who acquired them in 1958 could easily have looked at the sets and sealed them to show those sets had already been seen.

They do in fact self seal and a box of 100 could have. There's no way to know but I've opened many of these packages and never found them sealed (not even self sealed). However I've seen opened packages with the sets sealed. It is quite common especially for those poorly stored. Even the closed boxes will self seal in time, I've just never seen it. I have much less experience with the oldest sets and most of what I see is 1965 and later.
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 Posted 04/19/2021  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
I agree with all. when I say the enveloped was seal it is because this treat. I remembered I have a box of and opened to look. the enveloped are seal. By the time or somebody ? no idea, come from a dealer stock. What is sur it is the mint do not sent seal enveloped, at least not in that time.
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