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Bedrock of the Community
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Same here. 
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So much to learn here, too little of a brain to store it in....
Edited by Dearborn 05/05/2021 7:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think it's a trademark thing.
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Quote: I think it's a trademark thing. hmm, could be... but they both use CAM don't they?
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Depends on the coin.
Cam, D Cam and U Cam are terms that relate to the quality of the strike of the coin and are unrelated to the condition of the coin, or the relative rarity of the coin, with the afore mentioned striking qualities.
The level of rating of CAM, DCAM and UCAM do not relate to condition or rarity, but to striking quality. The only exception that I can think of are PL and DMPL Morgans, struck from fresh business strike dies in high MS grades, where the devices exhibit a cameo effect. In this case condition and quality of strike do play a vital role in their valuation.
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Having said all of the above, I have seen some very poorly minted UCAM silver rounds.
Edited by sel_69l 05/06/2021 08:51 am
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NGC=UCAM PCGS=DCAM John1 
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Quote: is it the same rating as DCAM but is used by NGC? Yes. Quote: NGC=UCAM PCGS=DCAM Correct.  Also, NGC uses PF while PCGS uses PR. A PCGS PR69DCAM would be an NGC PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO
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Quote: Also, NGC uses PF while PCGS uses PR Yup, that much I have noticed. Quote: A PCGS PR69DCAM would be an NGC PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO  yup it all makes sense. nice discussion here, thanks for all the info.. more info then I had expected, but all good stuff to know. I buy a lot of coins and being educated on what I'm buying is an incredibly smart move.
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I have been learning so much stuff here that my brain is getting full So could someone please tell me what this thing is used for?  
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Quote: I buy a lot of coins and being educated on what I'm buying is an incredibly smart move. Quoted for Truth!  Quote: So could someone please tell me what this thing is used for? 
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United States
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I don't think it's a trademark deal as much as it's one company trying to differentiate themselves from everyone else because Icg also uses the dcam designation ! NGC just wants to cause confusion lol good question though I had the same one long ago
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United States
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And correct me of I'm wrong but DPML coins were never made as proof or mint coins right ? They were made for circulation but it's almost as if it was the beginning of the striking process with new dies right ? There are no dmpl proof coins right ? Or am I incorrect?
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 to the Community, Jolynn1002!
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Quote: And correct me of I'm wrong but DPML coins were never made as proof or mint coins right ? They were made for circulation but it's almost as if it was the beginning of the striking process with new dies right ? There are no dmpl proof coins right ? Or am I incorrect? This is correct, only a designation given to business strikes. PL= Prooflike DMPL= Deep Mirror Proof Like Proofs cannot get this designation because, well, they are proofs! Not prooflike  
Edited by Ty2020b 01/10/2022 11:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Other different word usage (random example grades): PCGS: FR02 NGC: FA02 / FAIR 02
PCGS/NGC: MS64FB ANACS: MS64FSB
PCGS: MS64FS NGC: MS64 5FS / MS64 6FS
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Edited by jacrispies 01/11/2022 10:25 am
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