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Cam, DCAM, And Ucam Which Is The Highest Rating On A Coin?

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 Posted 05/05/2021  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Same here.
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 Posted 05/05/2021  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ballyhoo to your friends list
I think it's a trademark thing.
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 Posted 05/06/2021  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Depends on the coin.

Cam, D Cam and U Cam are terms that relate to the quality of the strike of the coin and are unrelated to the condition of the coin, or the relative rarity of the coin, with the afore mentioned striking qualities.

The level of rating of CAM, DCAM and UCAM do not relate to condition or rarity, but to striking quality. The only exception that I can think of are PL and DMPL Morgans, struck from fresh business strike dies in high MS grades, where the devices exhibit a cameo effect. In this case condition and quality of strike do play a vital role in their valuation.

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Having said all of the above, I have seen some very poorly minted UCAM silver rounds.
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 Posted 05/06/2021  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
NGC=UCAM
PCGS=DCAM
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 Posted 05/06/2021  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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is it the same rating as DCAM but is used by NGC?
Yes.

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NGC=UCAM
PCGS=DCAM
Correct.

Also, NGC uses PF while PCGS uses PR.

A PCGS PR69DCAM would be an NGC PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO
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 Posted 05/06/2021  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

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Also, NGC uses PF while PCGS uses PR


Yup, that much I have noticed.


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A PCGS PR69DCAM would be an NGC PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO


yup it all makes sense.

nice discussion here, thanks for all the info.. more info then I had expected, but all good stuff to know. I buy a lot of coins and being educated on what I'm buying is an incredibly smart move.
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 Posted 05/06/2021  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
I have been learning so much stuff here that my brain is getting full


So could someone please tell me what this thing is used for?


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I buy a lot of coins and being educated on what I'm buying is an incredibly smart move.
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So could someone please tell me what this thing is used for?
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I don't think it's a trademark deal as much as it's one company trying to differentiate themselves from everyone else because Icg also uses the dcam designation ! NGC just wants to cause confusion lol good question though I had the same one long ago
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And correct me of I'm wrong but DPML coins were never made as proof or mint coins right ? They were made for circulation but it's almost as if it was the beginning of the striking process with new dies right ? There are no dmpl proof coins right ? Or am I incorrect?
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And correct me of I'm wrong but DPML coins were never made as proof or mint coins right ? They were made for circulation but it's almost as if it was the beginning of the striking process with new dies right ? There are no dmpl proof coins right ? Or am I incorrect?


This is correct, only a designation given to business strikes.
PL= Prooflike
DMPL= Deep Mirror Proof Like

Proofs cannot get this designation because, well, they are proofs! Not prooflike

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Other different word usage (random example grades):
PCGS: FR02
NGC: FA02 / FAIR 02

PCGS/NGC: MS64FB
ANACS: MS64FSB

PCGS: MS64FS
NGC: MS64 5FS / MS64 6FS
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