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1909-P-VDB Proof - Do You See What I See?

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 Posted 05/08/2021  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
It's a woody, too bad it's only on one side. I think I see very slight wear.

AU-58, maybe MS-63 is it has full, cartwheel luster under the brown.
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 Posted 05/08/2021  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
woodies can sometimes be tricky as it makes it difficult to see the real surfaces. MS63 maybe 64. I'm leaning more to 63
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 Posted 05/08/2021  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Nice coin. Interesting, 'fine grain' woody appearance. I'd be good with AU58++. Hint of light wear, appears VDB took a hit. Sadly, not a proof.
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 Posted 05/08/2021  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Nice woody. Something like AU58 or MS63.
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 Posted 05/08/2021  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
. Not a matte proof ,it is a business strike. Nice woody and a nice coin over all.
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 Posted 05/08/2021  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list
Very nice looking Lincoln -
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 Posted 05/08/2021  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
, very nice woody AU-58++
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 Posted 05/08/2021  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
to the CCF thanks for posting good photos as well. I don't see this coin as a proof so with others here. As stated before a "woodie cent" these are desirable by many collectors, I see this one grading around mid to high AU. The woodie isn't appearing on both sides as well, so that isn't as desirable to a collectors, an improperly mixed alloy coin is interesting this may interest a subset of collectors as an only half or one sided woodie, I don't see many like it.

I'm not seeing any of the diagnostic markings that would lend any credence this is a proof coin.
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 Posted 05/08/2021  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list


Not a proof, not a gem but a nice piece nonetheless. MS64BN is as high as I'd go.

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 Posted 05/08/2021  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
The edges alone don't appear square enough for a proof, plus it lacks a matte finish.
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 Posted 05/09/2021  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rwkiii to your friends list
I wasn't even aware of an 'official' PROOF issue. Aren't many coins deemed as PROOF due to their quality - even if they are a BUSINESS strike?

For example, a thicker than usual planchet and a brand new die.

In that example I wouldn't expect a matt finish or other characteristics like that.

No way am I arguing or debating whether it's proof or not! ;)

Have never heard the term "woody" used in numismatics, but I understand that. It explains a couple of other coins I have where the surface puzzled me.

This Indian Head is also a "woody"?
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 Posted 05/09/2021  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
A coin is either a business strike or a proof. The production methods are different. Neither can be described as he other.
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 Posted 05/09/2021  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list

Quote:
A coin is either a business strike or a proof


Technically, this is not true. There are one sided proof coins the US Mint has produced.
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The edges alone don't appear square enough for a proof, plus it lacks a matte finish.
frog, I think you meant "rims" not "edges"; right?
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 Posted 05/09/2021  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
rwkiii...yes your coin is a woodie. there are collectors that collect them.
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