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 Posted 05/17/2021  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
That mint design is too new to be from 1968. I will have to dig into my notes and try to figure this one out. I can't do that right now, I have this lingering problem called "work" that interferes with my hobby!!
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 Posted 05/17/2021  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
It is a newer style which I think was in the past first known to be used in 1976. But the last use of old designs was 1965 so it could be from 65 to 76? I guess though it looks a little modern for the 60s. Maybe it was a trial for the loonie that was a slight downsize from the nickel dollar? It looks like you have a reeded edge? Maybe it is of the TT100.14 to TT100.18 vintage but of a different unrecorded size? Still very interesting.
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 Posted 05/18/2021  05:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mpearce8 to your friends list
Thank you SPP-Ottawa, I appreciate your time.

And yes Smallcentguy it is a reeded edge

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 Posted 05/26/2021  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mpearce8 to your friends list
Hi everyone,

Just wondering if there had been any progress in identifying this token - and in your expert opinions would it worth sending to NGC for grading.

I look forward to your replies and thanks again for all your help.

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 Posted 05/26/2021  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
I doubt NGC will go through the trouble of identifying an unknown test token. I am not sure they have the ability. Unless they can identify it I don't think they can certify it. I think you will get some sort of a rejection.

If you are trying to understand value, I would consign one to one of the major Canadian auctions. I think you have a good shot at getting a positive surprise outcome. It is really hard to say what you get, but I am going to make a wild guess at $750 to $1250.
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 Posted 05/26/2021  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Sending it to NGC or PCGS would be a waste of time and funds. They only attribute stuff that is in the Charlton Catalogue.

I am coming up blank with my notes... I'd love to XRF it and see where it fits with respect to all the dollar test tokens I have. I am wondering if it was a test token for other countries that the Royal Canadian Mint strikes coins for. There are a number of nickel-clad steel foreign strikes of 31 mm and pretty close to that weight for countries like Tanzania and Venezuela - that said, the Canadian nickel dollar is closer in weight, and that one looks pure nickel.

A dollar "mule" test token hammered at $650 for the most recent Bell Auction, other unattributed test tokens have ranged between $150 and $500 (that I am aware of). I suspect this one is worth between CAN$400 and CAN$800. Without prior auction results, it depends entirely what someone is willing to pay for it.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mpearce8 to your friends list
Okay thanks both of you.

Smallcentguy - do you have any auction houses to recommend? I will get in contact and see if I can sell one that way. Thank you again.

SPP-Ottawa - I can send you one and you can XRP it? I know it is probably unwise but you have been very helpful and I do believe you will return it to me once you are done. If there is a private message function on here please message and we can arrange it.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
Keith12, this has the same motif but this is a token that is already in the catalogue.

On auctions there is a recent string here already. Bell, Colonial Acres or TCNC are the real choices for a coin like this.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
mpearce8 - your coin is completely safe with me to analyze it. The owners of this coin forum would not have me part of their staff if I was not to be trusted!

I will send you a message, but there is no rush to send it, as my research XRF instrument is currently on loan with Queen's University (in Kingston, Ontario). I can test it for you, at no cost. The caveat is that I get to share and publish the results with the collecting community.

New members cannot send messages, but as a moderator, I am able to send you a message; and will be in touch when I know I will be getting my instrument back.
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Of course thank you. I look forward to hearing from you and please feel free to publish the results for everyone.
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Hi SPP-Ottawa,

Just checking in to see if there has been an update on when you will be getting your XRF instrument back. Feel free to message me if you know and I can get these 2 tokens shipped to you.

Kind regards
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 Posted 08/22/2021  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
I intend to get it back in September sometime.
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