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Moderator
 United States
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Just a heads up, Ken Potter is a member here. John1 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@John1.... I didn't realize Mr. Potter was a member here, I always enjoy his FB posts, lots of great info & articles.
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 United States
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New Member
 United States
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Hello all, the coin arrived today and upon seeing it for myself, I have to conclude that it is fake for a number of reasons, but still unlike any I've researched. New photos are posted below, but they aren't much better and I think it's simply because the coin lacks detail. What stood out to me initially: 1. As one commenter aptly noticed, the hairline seems off when compared to any known 43 examples, steel or otherwise. Especially the divot in the hair below the WE looks deeper than any I've seen. 2. As bats noted, the edges do seem very off and indeed sharp to the touch, unlike any cent I've ever handled. 3. The detail on the relief is far from what I'd think it would be, given the deeper striking pressure on the die. This is perhaps the most clear reason I think it's counterfeit, although the seller's photos left room for doubt. I'm sure there are other reasons you all can notice as well, feel free to share but I do intend to send it back. Thank you very much for your replies and insights. It's not a complete loss with all I've learned the last few days.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks even more counterfeit in these pics. I would say that the hairline is way of even worse than noted. The relief looks even shallower in these. Also the edges change depth a lot through out the coin. I am sure this is a counterfeit but if you want to do get it authenticated. I truly would. Also could you please try some better pics. Like a closeup of the hairline, the edges and the strange mark under Lincoln's bust. Including trust and the overall relief and details of Lincoln. I did do some studying recently and it seems to be a transferred die like I think Taylorism said.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hope you didn't pay much for this.
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New Member
 United States
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As previously stated, I wouldn't have purchased without the refund protection. It was certainly worth the lessons learned.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well it was a good lessons for me too. Especially with those transferred die thingamabobs.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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can you tell us where you bought the coin from, ? ebay or facebook group..
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am skeptical buying a coin that the seller knowingly understand how much this coin is worth, and you bought it by just looking at pictures? Since you haven't receive it till now, but you know it passed the magnet test before hand?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Shi-jiang China province counterfeit coin.
first: the color of the coin second: the rims do not fit the milling process third: the surface of the coin
I see others factors also but I can 't disclosure.
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Valued Member
New Zealand
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Send to NGC regardless might be 0.000000001% it might be real. Does it have WRL mintmark?
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the followup with images and additional thoughts. (Members really should read the OP's comments he posted with his updated images. He is returning it.) I've learned a lot with this thread (Now to find some way to remember the info!) Quote: Does it have WRL mintmark? Not sure I understand this question?
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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New Member
United States
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Did any of the 43 D copper pennys have doubling or RpMs
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Not that I've heard about. But that wouldn't increase the value. The real copper coins are the value.
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