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Real Or Fake 1943 D Copper Cent?

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 Posted 07/09/2021  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Just a heads up, Ken Potter is a member here.
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 Posted 07/09/2021  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list
@John1.... I didn't realize Mr. Potter was a member here, I always enjoy his FB posts, lots of great info & articles.
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 Posted 07/10/2021  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foxfire341 to your friends list
Hello all, the coin arrived today and upon seeing it for myself, I have to conclude that it is fake for a number of reasons, but still unlike any I've researched. New photos are posted below, but they aren't much better and I think it's simply because the coin lacks detail.
What stood out to me initially:
1. As one commenter aptly noticed, the hairline seems off when compared to any known 43 examples, steel or otherwise. Especially the divot in the hair below the WE looks deeper than any I've seen.
2. As bats noted, the edges do seem very off and indeed sharp to the touch, unlike any cent I've ever handled.
3. The detail on the relief is far from what I'd think it would be, given the deeper striking pressure on the die. This is perhaps the most clear reason I think it's counterfeit, although the seller's photos left room for doubt.
I'm sure there are other reasons you all can notice as well, feel free to share but I do intend to send it back.

Thank you very much for your replies and insights. It's not a complete loss with all I've learned the last few days.


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 Posted 07/10/2021  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
It looks even more counterfeit in these pics. I would say that the hairline is way of even worse than noted. The relief looks even shallower in these. Also the edges change depth a lot through out the coin. I am sure this is a counterfeit but if you want to do get it authenticated. I truly would. Also could you please try some better pics. Like a closeup of the hairline, the edges and the strange mark under Lincoln's bust. Including trust and the overall relief and details of Lincoln. I did do some studying recently and it seems to be a transferred die like I think Taylorism said.
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 Posted 07/10/2021  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Hope you didn't pay much for this.
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 Posted 07/10/2021  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foxfire341 to your friends list
As previously stated, I wouldn't have purchased without the refund protection. It was certainly worth the lessons learned.
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 Posted 07/10/2021  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
Well it was a good lessons for me too. Especially with those transferred die thingamabobs.
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 Posted 07/10/2021  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
can you tell us where you bought the coin from, ? ebay or facebook group..
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 Posted 07/10/2021  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I am skeptical buying a coin that the seller knowingly understand how much this coin is worth, and you bought it by just looking at pictures? Since you haven't receive it till now, but you know it passed the magnet test before hand?
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 Posted 07/10/2021  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Shi-jiang China province counterfeit coin.

first: the color of the coin
second: the rims do not fit the milling process
third: the surface of the coin

I see others factors also but I can 't disclosure.

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 Posted 07/11/2021  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NZStamps to your friends list
Send to NGC regardless might be 0.000000001% it might be real. Does it have WRL mintmark?
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Thanks for the followup with images and additional thoughts.
(Members really should read the OP's comments he posted with his updated images. He is returning it.)

I've learned a lot with this thread (Now to find some way to remember the info!)



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 Posted 11/19/2021  04:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penland to your friends list
Did any of the 43 D copper pennys have doubling or RpMs
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 Posted 11/19/2021  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Not that I've heard about. But that wouldn't increase the value. The real copper coins are the value.
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