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1950 Franklin Half Dollar Proof Before And After

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 Posted 07/15/2021  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Who said "Don't clean coins"?

This is a worthy exception.

So long as you are prepared to take a risk, and know what you are doing.

Ask museums who display ancient coins. They know what they are doing, and what risks are involved.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  03:44 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
Nice impaired proof.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  05:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Doesn't electrolysis remove a layer of metal? If so, how did PCGS not notice that?
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 Posted 07/15/2021  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Cool outcome. When you put the coin up for sale, will you disclose what's been done with the piece? Perhaps 'conserved'? Thanks.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list

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n the down side now I'll need more counter space, that should make my girl real happy...


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This is a worthy exception. So long as you are prepared to take a risk, and know what you are doing.


Yup. In this case I believed that the benefit greatly outweighed the risk, and in this case it did. That's why I took measures carefully and step by step.


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Nice impaired proof.

I wouldn't consider it impaired as only containments on the surface was removed, not the surface itself. Given the fragile surfaces of proofs, if the surfaces themselves were messed with, it'd be very apparent.
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Doesn't electrolysis remove a layer of metal? If so, how did PCGS not notice that?


When done improperly, yes it does, when done properly no. Electrolysis has been a method of conservation used for a long time, and NCS and PCGS still use it today for conservation. It's great for removing crust and stubborn haze, but only in certain cases. In this case, I sent the coin to him and asked if he though it'd be safe or effective to try it on this particular coin. He's had decades of experience focused in conservation, and so if he felt that it'd be a good choice I left it to him. The coin post treatment is still fully proofy with zero disruptions in the luster. You would be completely unable to tell this coin from a "fully original" example. Personally though, I much prefer the after to the before, and as this is a coin I purchased for retail, I took the course of action I deemed the best to make the coin the most marketable.


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Cool outcome. When you put the coin up for sale, will you disclose what's been done with the piece? Perhaps 'conserved'? Thanks


No reason to do so. NGC and PCGS don't put conserved on their slabs when they do, and neither have I. If asked I'd tell the truth and say yes, but when a coin is properly conserved the coin should receive no hairlines or damage and therefor no reduction in grade or comment. Obviously, if a forum member is interested in the coin they would likely be aware since this thread exists, but I think in most cases people would rather have the conserved coin to the unconserved.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
Good job! I really think that people get all up in arms when a coin is improved. This coin looks great (well for a Ben, all Ben's are ugly). I would believe that 50% or more of all 100 year old bright as new coins were "treated"
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 Posted 07/15/2021  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Job well done, Grape.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list

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Good job! I really think that people get all up in arms when a coin is improved. This coin looks great (well for a Ben, all Ben's are ugly). I would believe that 50% or more of all 100 year old bright as new coins were "treated"


Most likely. If done right, you'd never know and it only helps the coin (removing PVC and haze in this case). If done wrong it only hurts (cleaning). As to the all are ugly, I had a few part of this sub even YOU might admit are nice, those I'll post shortly.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Here are some in hand photos post treatment, prior to the slabbing obviously.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list
Thanks for the video, Grape. While I would never try this myself on any coin of value, it's something I'll probably play with on some junk coins I've got.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
Well done!
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 Posted 07/15/2021  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
Grape- are you able to share the name and info of the conserver that you use.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Absolutely. Martin Soliano at Golden Eagle in Laurel, Maryland. I'm not sure what he charges as he's been kind enough to do the work for me at no cost in the past.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list
Thanks Grape
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