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 Posted 08/12/2021  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I know of a World recognized professional numismatic auctioneer, who no longer has a collection. He sold his collection on the London Auction market about 35 years ago, and used the capital to start his business.

Nevertheless, almost all of his staff still actively collect. The only staff members who don't, are some of the office support staff.
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 Posted 08/13/2021  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Merriam-Webster says numismatics is "the study or collection of coins, etc." (my italics)

So apparently the answer is yes, you can study coins without collecting them, and still be a proud numismatist.
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 Posted 08/13/2021  10:29 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
I have an extensive collection of coin images, particularly counterfeits.
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 Posted 08/14/2021  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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 Posted 08/15/2021  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Possibly a great way to save money in this hobby. Just save photos of the coins.
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 Posted 08/16/2021  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
A digital collection is much cheaper, especially with relative lower costs on storage devices.
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 Posted 08/16/2021  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dant5150 to your friends list
The arousal centers that flare with the in person, in hand held art that coins are, I guess, can still flare to a degree by the mere virtual representation of it... "Coin Porn"... and, you should be ashamed!

As a "Coin Porn" collector, do you have to wear white cotton gloves to increase the sensation of the virtual stimulation?

lol, sue me, I'm Canadian
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 Posted 08/16/2021  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
"Numismatist" is not a synonym for "coin collector", and never has been, even before the Internet age, even though many of us treat it so. I'm a member of several "numismatic societies", and when people ask me "what is numismatics", I just say "coin collecting" beause it's the simplest thing to say - even though I know it's not technically true.

A "coin collector" collects coins - it's right there on the label. They might, or might not, actually know something about the coins they collect, but knowledge is not necessary to just be a "coin collector".

A "numismatist" is, by definition, a student of coins. Knowledge about the coins is everything. They might, or might not, actually own any coins, but possession is not necessary to just be a "numismatist".

Now, many of us are, of course, both "coin collectors" and "numismatists", we both collect, and want to learn as much as possible about the things we collect. But it's entirely possible to be a "true numismatist" without owning a single coin. Indeed, many professional numismatists in the world's museums and universities dislike and disapprove of "coin collecting" as a hobby, especially for ancient and mediaeval coins. "Coin collectors" are seen as part of the problem, the source of the demand which fuels grave-robbing and the looting of archaeological sites.
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 Posted 08/17/2021  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
Even non-collecting numismatists surely must like/want to handle coins.
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 Posted 08/17/2021  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Surely, the numismatic aspect of coin collecting is part of the fun. Knowing a bit about the history and use of coins makes it more interesting to collect.
I mean, that is one of my main motives to collect circulated coinage and not fantasy bullion sets.
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 Posted 08/17/2021  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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Surely, the numismatic aspect of coin collecting is part of the fun. Knowing a bit about the history and use of coins makes it more interesting to collect.
I mean, that is one of my main motives to collect circulated coinage and not fantasy bullion sets.

This is true for you, and for me, and probably for a majority of coin collectors. But it's not necessarily so for everyone. Plenty of people "enjoy the collecting" without caring about learning things.

And those fantasy bullions must be being collected by somebody, or they wouldn't bother continuing to make them.
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 Posted 08/18/2021  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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And those fantasy bullions must be being collected by somebody, or they wouldn't bother continuing to make them.
Good point.
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 Posted 08/19/2021  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pmint1 to your friends list
I like getting my coins out to look at too much to not own them. I get a thrill when I get a great find at a good price or complete a set. I track the value of my main sets and like to watch the value climb as I accumulate more. I think I'm sick.
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 Posted 08/20/2021  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Maybe that makes you a collector-investor?

It's an interesting discussion on this thread, that I think goes back to the notion of why we collect/like coins.

At one extreme, you can be a numismatist who enjoys the study of coins, whether or not you own them. As @Sap pointed out, you can be a collector, who doesn;t care to learn much about the coins he/she collects, but may be driven to complete series, themes, countries, etc. And I think there are invetsors who mostly care that the coins they buy appreciate over time, or the aggregate value of the collection does. I think the extreme of this is the case where the collection is largely bullion items, not even coins with what some people call "numismatic value" (i.e. value above bullion).

And of course all kiinds of shades in between.
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 Posted 08/20/2021  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carlp007 to your friends list

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What do you think, can we get the excitement without owning any coins?

To answer the original question. I (me, myself, and I) am more excited by pursuing the purchase, getting a deal, looking at and feeling the coin (even if it is in a slab or capsule) and owning the coin. When I get a coin I spend several minutes just looking at it. Usually, I am looking at a few coins from my collection daily and think, I am glad I got this. I look at the coins at different angles and in different light to notice something that I did not notice previously. Hard to do that with a picture. I understand that I will never own most of the coins I desire, but you never know and that makes it exciting.

I get disappointed when I cannot get a coin that I want (US Mint). Looking at a coin, would be cheaper, but much less satisfying to me.
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