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PCGS Value Vs Ebay Sell Price?

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 Posted 11/05/2021  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
If it was listed as an AU coin on ebay, there's a strong possibility that it's not mint state, and almost certainly not MS-65. Good photos of the coin posted here could help with assessing the grade.
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 Posted 11/05/2021  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Your comparing apples to oranges.
You say you bought a raw coin of off ebay that was listed as AU which means it has been circulated.
Then you compare this to a certified uncirculated coin in MS65 condition.
A certified coin, especially a MS one, will nearly always be worth more.
As stated earlier, please show a photo of both sides so someone can give you a more accurate grade of your coin.
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 Posted 11/06/2021  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Larry Gosnell to your friends list
Pictures didn't come out real good with cell phone. Liberty came out blurry on obverse but in reality it's perfect. Reverse picture came out better. So what would you grade this coin as? and about value. ebay seller said AU. Appreciate it. $2.25 + $1.00 shipping. total $3.25 If using the PCGS Photo Grading System where would you put it?

https://www.PCGS.com/photograde/#/Buffalo/Grades

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 Posted 11/06/2021  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list
@Larry Gosnell, from what I can tell it's easily AU. You should post it in a separate thread in the grading section for proper attention. I'd say AU58 but I am brand new to USA grading. The photos on PCGS make it fairly easy.
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 Posted 11/06/2021  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
I see wear on the horn, Native American's hair and the high points of the bison. This is not an MS65 coin. It's AU, I would probably say AU 55-58, need better pictures to confirm.
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 Posted 11/06/2021  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list
I say AU-55
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 Posted 11/06/2021  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
I think the seller had it right at AU.
Worth more than $3.25 but nowhere near MS value.
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 Posted 11/06/2021  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
I agree with high AU. Nice coin for only $3.25
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 Posted 11/06/2021  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Larry Gosnell to your friends list
Ok so lets say it's high AU condition, say AU58. PCGS Value is $22 to $25 but CoinManage value is $15. So would the CoinManage value be more realistic on all coins in a person's collection instead of going by PCGS values and pricing? I use basic USA CoinManage 2021 for my database.
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 Posted 11/06/2021  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Your comparing apples to oranges.

Exactly what I was going to say.
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 Posted 11/06/2021  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Larry Gosnell to your friends list
Is there no standard in the Coin Collecting Hobby for value of a particular grade besides what coins sell for on ebay? I understand, I guess that PCGS Values are for PCGS Graded coins so you can't go by that. I'm not real sure why but ok, I'm good with that. Coins don't sell for PCGS Values unless they are graded by PCGS. What do you guys go by? Just trying to learn and put a fair market value on my coins. CoinManage values ok to go by? They seem to be updated every few years or so.
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 Posted 11/06/2021  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list

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Is there no standard in the Coin Collecting Hobby for value of a particular grade besides what coins sell for on ebay?


A good start would be to look up coin values at Numismedia, http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/fmv.shtml , at PCGS, https://www.PCGS.com/prices/us , and at ebay completed/sold auctions.
Don't forget that often, ebay sellers will mark up their coins substantially if only to recoup the ebay fees.
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 Posted 11/09/2021  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
exactly what NumisEd said.

looks at least AU58. nice pickup

use numismedia and ebay sold prices not PCGS.
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 Posted 11/09/2021  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
The grainy surface on the obverse bothers me.
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 Posted 11/09/2021  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Ok so lets say it's high AU condition, say AU58. PCGS Value is $22 to $25

And to get that PCGS you would have to have the coins graded which will cost you at least about $28.


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Is there no standard in the Coin Collecting Hobby for value of a particular grade besides what coins sell for on ebay?

A coin is only worth what it actually sells for. I, or other publications, can claim all day that it is worth $100, but if it actually SELLS consistently for $50, then it is worth $50.
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