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Forum Dad
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How it happened is irrelevant. If you spend an hour or 2 researching the minting process you will understand that this cannot happen.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, cup-holder coin and monster pic overload.  to the CCF! |
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New Member
 Canada
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Ok but to clarify, its not a stain. Its a physically indented marking that can be felt with your fingers and runs underneath the perforated areas.
Also There is no sign of wear on the areas where it crosses the letters that would suggest it was rubbed off, even though that is irrelevant because its a physical marking and not a surface stain.
Is it not possible some debris or grease found its way on to the coin during pressing?
Contrary to bobbys "certainty", the fact thats its a physical property that runs beneath the letters would absolutely make "how" it happened quite relevant.
You reply as if its impossible that something you are currently unaware of could ever be discovered.
Edited by M TeK 9
02/09/2022 7:12 pm
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Forum Dad
United States
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Hey, since you're sure it's an error fork out the dough and send it to NGC or PCGS. Be sure to tell them it's a "Spiral Error" so they can put it on the label. Quote:
You reply as if its impossible that something you are currently unaware of could ever be discovered. Since there have been trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of coins minted on the type of presses used today over many decades, smart money says all types of errors have been discovered and you don't have a brand new never happened before error. |
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New Member
Canada
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Well, to be honest I was hoping the community here would be a bit more curious and insightful opposed to the dismissive and borderline hostile replies that ive received.
I mean, id really appreciate and be thankful if you could share your realistic thoughts on what could cause such a physical defect that runs underneath the lettering and images.
Would it not strongly suggest that the markings were present on the planchet prior to the pressing of the lettering and momument?
In addition, you can faintly see the markings on the obverse where it runs just beneath "in god we trust" that match up with the bottom markings on the reverse.
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New Member
Canada
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Sigh...
Nevermind. I see your edited addition to your last post.
Thank you very much for your input.
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Forum Dad
United States
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Would it not strongly suggest that the markings were present on the planchet prior to the pressing of the lettering and momument? You don't think that if they were there before striking they would be obliterated when struck with 50 or so tons of pressure? |
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New Member
Canada
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Maybe something was on the planchet when the lettering and imaging was smashed with that 50 tons of pressure?
Seems a lot more plausible than something physically impressing into the coin and even causing a small crack, but somehow managing to precisely avoid impressing the high points like the lettering while sitting in a cup holder.
The latter just doesn't seem possible without physically impressing the high points as well.
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Moderator
United States
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Well at this point, I would you sent it in for attribution. The best (and cheapest) one to send it to would be ANACS, as they will also notate more notable things that are out of the norm than the other two big TPG's. If you do send it in, please come back here and report your findings for us to see. |
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New Member
Canada
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Thank you Dearborn. Ill look in to it
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wonder if they have ever labeled a holder "Stained" ?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have some coins from same period with same kind of staining. We do not find not trace of a major acids, but in the end the SEM-EDX show us that was come from black coffee. By mean the coffee it is acidic and in fact some how has those traces on this coin, which can have unexplorable possibilities. The fact it is the acid from coffee attack the zinc not the copper, and for this reason on this coin we find the specific color of the zinc acidic attack.
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New Member
Canada
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Im still hoping someone can tell me how it would create a "canyon" along the entire markings yet miraculously avoid damaging the letters and also how this physically impressed "stain" would leave faint traces of the markings that line up perfectly on the obverse....if this is simply "cup holder damage".
Edited by M TeK 9
02/12/2022 5:44 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The reason the stain doesn't appear on the tops of the letters is because they are the highest point on the reverse of the coin and thus will wear the most. Notice that all the letters have an even color? They've all worn during circulation more or less equally and the stain was on them and has now been worn off.
Also, the stain doesn't skip the devices. Notice that it runs over the top of the monument and also up the stairs? Those areas wear less and show the stain is old and hasn't worn completely off the coin.
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New Member
Canada
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I could understand that if it were a surface stain....but for the 10th time, its not a stain. Its a physical groove that can be felt with your finger.
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