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Pillar of the Community
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some of the ones that I have seen graded as FBL have dings and nicks but graded FBL. That has been my impression - it qualifies, but to a lesser degree of desirability to a collector |
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@otto, can you please add the date and mintmark to the title of this thread? Thx.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Is the lower rim edge even complete here?
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Pillar of the Community
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The two hits that break the lines make it a no for me.
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Sorry for being lazy, Spence. It's a 1954-D. Here's the whole reverse, Coinfrog  |
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I attribute FBL by the upper set of lines . Some people use the lower set . It's close but not quite full .  |
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It's a 1954-D. No prob at all. Having complete information in the titles helps when we are searching for something specific. Thx.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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Gorgeous coin, but I'm guessing not FBL.
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Pillar of the Community
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so according to this article one company uses the top lines and another use the top and bottom to designate FBL. Some graders deny FBL if there are nicks and gouges through the lines and some dont if the strike is sharp. https://coins.thefuntimesguide.com/fbl/ |
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That seems to summarize the general confusion.  |
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Thats s nice looking coin, well, reverse of a coin.
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That seems to summarize the general confusion.  Bruce , you have a way of making a point with your comments.  |
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PCGS uses just the bottom lines, excluding the very bottom line since it's incomplete as part of the design. NGC just says "all the horizontal lines on the bell must be distinct." The coin must grade MS 60 and there must be no break in the continuity of the lines. Although generally designed to denote the strength of the strike, rather than the condition of the coin, I think the dings on the left of the bell would clearly disqualify this from FBL status. Pity, because otherwise looks like a strong candidate. https://www.PCGS.com/news/tips-from...-room-part-4 |
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PCGS uses just the bottom lines, excluding the very bottom line since it's incomplete as part of the design. NGC just says "all the horizontal lines on the bell must be distinct." That was the point made at the PCGS intermediate grading class I attended this past Sat. Quote:
The coin must grade MS 60 and there must be no break in the continuity of the lines. Although generally designed to denote the strength of the strike, rather than the condition of the coin, I think the dings on the left of the bell would clearly disqualify this from FBL status... This coin and scenario were similar to one of the examples used in the intermediate grading class. There was a hit that interfered with the continuity of the bell lines so the graded example didn't get the FBL designation. Quote:
The two hits that break the lines make it a no for me. Agreed, and for the top two grading companies as well. For whatever it's worth to everyone, the instructor pointed out the depth of the obv. design is more likely to affect the upper set of lines. One reason for this is because of metal flowing into the obv design can hinder metal flowing into the upper bell line area. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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02/20/2022 07:45 am
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