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 Posted 02/03/2009  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
My prediction is in the near future Scientist will either be able to make Gold or find other substances that are made to replace ALL precious metals. Note how now Diamonds can be produced and only a little and few laws are preventing the flooding of that market.
Changing metals has long been a chemist dream and is being worked on continuously at neclear labs. It's only a matter of time.
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 Posted 02/03/2009  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list
When listening to predictions, like coin magazines, and bullion dealers, consider the source. Always ask yourself if I believe what this guy/source is telling me, would they profit in some way? As my grandfather used to tell me - what you hear from someone always depends on whether they are buying or selling. I think $1250 is the tops for gold, but than I am not trying to sell you any.
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 Posted 02/03/2009  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list

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Would you like 8usd/gallon of fuel next while you are on the same living income?


You obviously haven't been to the UK recently. That is what we were paying a couple of months back!
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 Posted 02/03/2009  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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I think $1250 is the tops for gold, but than I am not trying to sell you any.



If we'll talking about 2009, I agree with you 100%.
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 Posted 02/03/2009  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list
I see it this way. If I listened to every person who ever gave me advice, I would probably receive an equal amount of good advice as I would bad. That being said, I will not predict whether gold will top $1,000.00 before 2010. The current world economy is unstable at best. Tomorrow the US dollar could gain against the Euro, only to loose it the very next day.

Purchase what you like, when you have the means to do so, would be the only advice I could give to anyone buying anything of value.
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 Posted 02/03/2009  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list

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I think $1250 is the tops for gold, but than I am not trying to sell you any.


$1200 is when I will seriously consider selling all of my precious metals.
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 Posted 02/04/2009  04:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ron6788 to your friends list
I would say no. I think it's overpriced now but what do I know anyhow? I couldn't get into that article to read it so what's their reasoning for the steep rise? Is the Earth's supply of gold running low or demand running high? Who would demand it to begin with? Does gold even have any real purpose except to make and show off as jewelry?
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 Posted 02/04/2009  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ron6788 to your friends list
...and making coins, of course.
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 Posted 02/04/2009  04:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chumpchange to your friends list
Super high conductive electronic components use gold like the speaker wire in my car at $80.00 per ft and air bags and stuff on space shuttles.
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 Posted 02/04/2009  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
You can do research on the internet - worldgoldcouncil.org may be reasonable good and accurate with its statistics of demand versus supply.
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 Posted 02/04/2009  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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just carl said:
My prediction is in the near future Scientist will either be able to make Gold or find other substances that are made to replace ALL precious metals. Note how now Diamonds can be produced and only a little and few laws are preventing the flooding of that market.
Changing metals has long been a chemist dream and is being worked on continuously at neclear labs. It's only a matter of time.

There is a key difference between diamond and gold: diamond is not elemental, it is just one form of carbon, and given the right conditions, you can turn just about any other form of carbon into diamond - all you need is chemistry. Gold, however, is gold - you can't turn anything else into gold by using chemistry (the alchemists of old didn't know this, and couldn't have known this).

You can "transmute" other elements into gold using a nuclear reactor, but it will always be expensive and dangerous to do so, and the resultant metal would be (a) radioactive - gold-195 has a half-life of 186 days - and (b) the isotope ratios and the trace amounts of platinum and mercury decay products from radioactive gold would be easy to test for, so you could tell when gold was natural or artificial. So at best, even if such "artificial gold" could be produced cheaply, you'd have a situation like with rubies, diamonds and pearls - there's lots of "artificials" around, but "naturals" are still prized.

An unlimited supply of natural gold can, however, be found from another source: the sea. Check your history books and you'll find several famous gold swindlers that conned people into investing in bogus technology to extract gold from seawater. But the concept does have a sound theoretical basis: seawater contains around 0.2 parts per billion gold. That might not sound like much, but there's an awful lot of seawater around. By my reckoning, a body of sea as small as San Francisco Bay contains 41,700 ounces of dissolved gold.

It remains uneconomical to extract gold in this way - it currently costs around $20,000 an ounce - but improvements in technology, and coupling a gold extraction plant with other energy-intensive seawater processing such as desalination for drinking water, could easily create a secondary supply of gold, effectively "capping" the maximum price gold can rise before seawater extraction becomes viable.
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 Posted 02/04/2009  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list
That was fun!

You know Sap I would love to sit down with you and chat about stuff!
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 Posted 02/04/2009  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list
Wow Sap! Very interesting! Thanks
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 Posted 02/04/2009  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list

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a body of sea as small as San Francisco Bay contains 41,700 ounces of dissolved gold.

Interesting example, because our bay probably has more gold content than normal background levels, since upstream was once a significant gold source. There's probably even more gold deposited in the bay silt left over from hydraulic mining operations, but that's no doubt mingled with mercury used in the recovery process. Dredging and recovery of the gold would be a disaster because it would expose more mercury to the marine food chain. --just a little trivia specific to SF Bay.
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 Posted 02/04/2009  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Well, owing to the chemistry of seawater per 1 ounce of gold you would have...

141,600 metric tons of fresh water
4,960 metric tons of table salt
875 tons of things like Sulfates, Magnesium etc

Thus unless salt is worth less then 20c a ton, the salt you would get would exceed the value of the gold, and have enough drinking water left over for the basic drinking needs of the UK for a day.
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