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1954-S Posted In December, Just Got Grades Back From PCGS Will Let You Guess

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 Posted 03/22/2022  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Have you ever read Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade"?
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 Posted 03/22/2022  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Based on the photos there is no way this is a 64 unless the pics are hiding something in the fields. The strike is hammered, zero issues. Even the shoulder and EPU and O in ONE are strong and fully formed. Let us know if you send it back.
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 Posted 03/22/2022  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
So tell us, are you submitting these directly or through an authorized dealer of some note?
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 Posted 03/22/2022  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
They definitely messed up this grade.

IMHO, I believe that this would have graded MS67 if it had been submitted in a full roll. Lots of safeguards are in place to assure accuracy but sometimes mistakes happen. I would contact them. (Although if you send it back, I wouldn't be surprised if it only ends up at 66 to save some face on the initial graders part.)


Hmmmm, on my keyboard the 4 is right below the 7. (Is this grade the result of "Chubby Finger syndrome"? LOL)

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 Posted 03/22/2022  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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(Is this grade the result of "Chubby Finger syndrome"? LOL)


That crossed my mind as well. It could be an error.
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 Posted 03/22/2022  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list
How about that 1936 d quarter that was in a PCGS holder label as a 1936. It was submitted, graded, received and resold. No one noticed the coin was a 1936 d! Guy bought it for 10% of the value of a 1936 d.

Mistakes happen
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 Posted 03/23/2022  04:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grospoisson to your friends list



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If I were to resubmit, is it best to crack and redo raw and sent with other coins. As it stands now, the coin is useless to me in this condition. It maybe only in my dreams but I wanted a ms-67+. These photos are at 40 power magnification and scratches you see are on the plastic. there is minuscule tick on the shoulder not visible unless high magnification. It was stated on the forum that post WW11 Lincolns have been graded extremely tough in recent years. The cost to resubmit is similar to 7 gallons of gas (LOL) if sent with other coins. Regardless of the common date argument in for consideration of right and wrong. Whether your thoughts agree with me or not I would like to hear them.
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 Posted 03/23/2022  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
strike? thats the only thing I can think of. I mean come on a 64? really? knock it at least 2 full points for strike? ripped off on this one grospoisson.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grospoisson to your friends list

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Have you ever read Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade"?


Yes I did! Although there was no chance at victory, they forged ahead anyway. Actually not a bad reference if someone has read it. Having coached for over thirty years with different head coaches, almost always the system a new head coach wants to implement, will work. The assistants all have to buy into that system. Almost always experienced assistants can't seem to shake past plays and practices that have worked (myself included). When I finally realized that it's best to get behind the new system to see where it goes. I guess my reference is to submitting common date coins (if they grade very high then they are not so common anymore). I appreciate that you have given me your honest opinion about the coin I have posted. It's exactly what I need common or not. I do not have the means nor the time to find rare ,raw coins to submit. The option is to buy already slabbed. Anyone with money can do that.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Assuming no error was made, I would not resubmit. There must be something they didn't like. In the second set of pictures, the right obverse field is about the only flaw I can see. My guess is there must be something about the fields they didn't care for.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list
I am by no way an expert here. I am a novice at grading, especially cents. The second set of photos does show some things I didn't notice before. Across the whole of Abe from the top of the ear to the neck lacks any detail. The hair at the back of the head, ear, jaw and beard seem very smooth. Could just be glare from the holder. I also see what Badthad is talking about with the right fields close to the head and a long vertical line.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Now that I look again, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is weak and not attractive - some messiness in the fields in that area too. What I can't do is look at the fields and rotate the coin around to see how clean they actually are. Consistent, unmarred, uninterrupted fields win the day on the high grade coins.

That said, at minimum this coin is 65 based on the pictures.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KYCopperCoins to your friends list
They've been less than friendly with Lincolns as of late... I just subbed 119 Lincolns this week, hopefully they are in a better mood when they grade mine than they were when they graded this one.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Justice41ca to your friends list
1954-S Posted In December, Just Got Grades Back From PCGS

I am surely going to take some hits for this post but that's o.k.


I disagree with PCGS.
I see most of the others do also.
I know I am new to all this, but I have read and read what books I could get my hands on, and everything recommended on the web.

Your coin is at least a MS67 I was leaning to MS68.
I am not into Lincolns but they intrigue me.

I have more to say but have second thoughts going to find the right place and topic to post under here at CCF.
They are not Gods they are a company out to make money with regular people working there.

Very nice beautiful coin.
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 Posted 03/25/2022  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
Also guys look at the top of the ear compared to a 67. There is a lot missing on this example. Very clean coin but strike was lacking.
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