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1874 Philly Trade Dollar For Your Review

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 Posted 04/22/2022  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
It may be it looks on the edge to me. You can see the luster in the pics around the eagle and olive leaves.
Being A Trade dollar it may get a pass. Being Authentic is the biggest thing to me with this one though.
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 Posted 04/22/2022  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
I am with Frog VF Details Cleaned. The coin surface is not original and I agree with you that the coin has been dipped.
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 Posted 04/22/2022  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Not especially a collectible grade. VF details.
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 Posted 04/22/2022  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
I would disagree with it not being a collectable grade . Still a tough coin to find.
Here are a few other pics under a jewelers light.


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 Posted 04/22/2022  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
VF-35 Details Cleaned, definitely looks genuine

Try using different background colors to make the coin color seem natural. A white background or a light gray should make a big difference.
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 Posted 04/22/2022  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
will try the lighter background. Thanks for the tip Jacrispies
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 Posted 04/23/2022  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
With A lighter background makes it easier to see the luster around Lady Liberty , The Eagle and some of the devices .
Going to agree with a old cleaning I think but will be a good place holder until I can find or afford A Higher grade.

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 Posted 04/23/2022  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenwright396 to your friends list
, nice place holder for now.
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 Posted 04/23/2022  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
you latest photos are probably closer to what the coin actually looks like. she has been banged around a lot. I'm going with VF35 details (cleaned) also.
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 Posted 04/23/2022  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
Panzaldi I think it looks closer as well. You can make out the luster still and the overall color is closer.
Id say she was a pocket piece for awhile maybe. The I-Phone seems to over exaggerate the marks and nicks some though they are all there . Most do not look so noticeable in hand.

Paid $300.00 for it . Cheapest on the bay and nicer than anything south of 500.00 so think it is worth the purchase price
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Tested perfect on the Sigma tester
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 Posted 04/23/2022  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list

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Id say she was a pocket piece for awhile maybe.


That was my reaction, too, when I saw the new photos. I'm not sure this was cleaned. Carrying it as a pocket piece can cause some of the same effects, since it would be handled a lot.

It looks genuine, and VF-ish to me. I agree on details, but would assign that to a 95 code (scratches) rather than a 92 code (cleaning).
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 Posted 04/23/2022  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
@JK, please don't take this the wrong way. I just want to give you my frank thoughts. I think you can expect to purchase a nice original XF example of a 1874 TD for $300. My biggest issue is not with the cleaning, and I think this rates in the VF details cleaned range like others in this thread. The biggest issue that I see is the low eye appeal of this coin. I think that this is a coin that few others would want in this condition with this eye appeal at $300. If this was mine and I have a return privilege, I would send it back and seek one with better eye appeal. Just my 2 cents and if you like it, none of this matters - each one of us buys what we like.
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 Posted 04/23/2022  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
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None taken and all opinions appreciated .
I may but I have yet to see one in that range. I am in no hurry however so I may try and send her back.
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 Posted 04/23/2022  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
I did look in ebay and as expected, the 74 is scarcer and harder to find than the more common 74-S although the pricing doesn't fully reflect this. And all of the examples I saw were low eye appeal and overpriced. As you know we are in a somewhat abnormal market where people seem to be bidding up and snapping up all the better material out there. When this happens, I think I have to react by being more selective. Another thing that serves me well is that I don't need to fill holes or complete sets. If I do, I never let anyone know that this is the case. My approach is to look at a lot of coins of all types and only consider a coin if it sings to me in terms of eye appeal, and then I look at price, filtering out stuff that is overpriced in my mind. It is a lot like the Tinder dating app where you quickly swipe left (skip) if not interested and swipe right (save/watch) if it meets my criteria. I cast my net wide and find not knowing what is going to come up ensnared in my net at any time fun and exciting. I find that focusing too narrowly on a series, date, MM or other narrow attribute is frustrating and causes me to miss other, better opportunities. Like I've said before, I try to look for stuff that sings to me at first sight, and preferably material that I'm not competing with half the world out there to win. For all of this patience is key, and I readily admit that many others here are better than me at this.
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