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For anyone still keeping score at home we've got 8 hours left and the high bid is now $560.  |
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With a few hours yet to go, it's now well over 1k ....  Edited by ExoGuy
06/24/2022 7:18 pm
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Whew, surpassed my expectations by far. Someone really went for it!
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I was(am?) hoping that someone here would win and report back on the authenticity :)
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I would buy these only if I wanted to flip them. Most of the coins I used to buy go for crazy prices these days. People are starting to pay big for rarities like the 1799 without regard to condition or verified authenticity. It used to be 1877 and 1922 cents, but now every desirable coin is a target for high quality fakery.
kbbpll's photos are disturbing, with numbers and letters looking molded, and a date which is much stronger than it should be. The heavy corrosion looks very intentional rather than natural.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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06/25/2022 11:31 am
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I stand by my statement.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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The auction went to crazy money considering the condition of the coins. I was looking at the reverse of the 1799 again, and it appears that the 1 is sitting on the fraction bar. It happens on some dates, but not the 1799. If that is the case, the coin is a 100% fake.
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Old Scottish saying:
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What is the CCF's opinion of how much the '99 would be worth in that condition if it was authentic? I'm wondering how much of a deal this lot was even if everything in theory was real.
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There are really at least three possibilities: genuine 1799, genuine 1798 with an altered date, or counterfeit 1799.
A genuine 1799 would be a surprise, but certainly not impossible. Remember the 1854-S Half Eagle that appeared a few years ago. Was it Heritage Auctions? And I'm old enough to remember when the King of Siam proof set appeared out of nowhere in the 1960s.
EDIT: On value, if this is genuine it probably would be G/VG Details. I would think that would be in the $3,000 to $4,500 ballpark, wouldn't it?
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06/25/2022 12:49 pm
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The 1799 is a fake. The bow on the right side comes down too far in relationship to the zero. 7 is out of position, and the 1 sits on the fraction bar. It is not a altered coin as no 1798 checks all three boxes of low 7, 1 on bar, and low bow.
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Given Slider23's observations, here's a 1799 for the sake of comparison ....   |
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Thanks everyone for these pointers on what to look for. Tbh, I can't even make out from the pics where the 1 ends in relation to the fraction bar for the "1799" in question.
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