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1953-D Lincoln Need Help For Grading And Possibility Error

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 Posted 07/06/2022  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list

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one word: Pareidolia


edit:
regarding your mother's cholesterol, a more important measure is the HDL to LDL ratio.

I am curious to know: Living in Indonesia, is English your first language?


Thank you CentSation for your advices about my mother. I'll keep that in mind

My first language is Indonesia, English is my second language after Balinesse, Javanesse and Sundanesse language.

I'm sorry, there's a lot of error in my grammar.

Back to the coins.
It's hard for me to just say this might be Pareidolia as you said before. However, i'll take it as Pareidolia.

I believe it was struck over another Lincoln coins. That's why his lips slightly move to east side.

i'll post another next.

And I'm sorry if it's take me too long to respond. Because I have to take care my mother.

Once again, thank you CentSation. Nice to talk to you. Stay health.
Feel like home in CCF, where I can learn something new in this hobbies.

Solo
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 Posted 07/06/2022  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Not so sure it is Pareidolia, - I 'see' the extra lips too - maybe mass hallucinations? What ever it is, it sure is a very weird feature on the field.
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 Posted 07/06/2022  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list
I try to reconstruct this, my curiousity make me try to reconstruct this.

Before, Mr. Dearborn ask me why I compare with 1968 Lincoln. And he was right. So I reconstruct this with 1963 Lincoln.

And let the image speak for it self.

1953-D-Lincoln-Need-Help-For-Grading-And-Possibility-Error

1953-D-Lincoln-Need-Help-For-Grading-And-Possibility-Error

1953-D-Lincoln-Need-Help-For-Grading-And-Possibility-Error

1953-D-Lincoln-Need-Help-For-Grading-And-Possibility-Error

i make overlay between 1953 Lincoln and 1963 Lincoln.
The reverse show the building pattern.

But i'll wait for you all to judge and examine the image above.

Thank you.
Solo
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 Posted 07/06/2022  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list
Agree with you Dearborn. it's shows doubled on lips. But the question is, why and how it's happened?
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 Posted 07/06/2022  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Note the strike looks weak on that one area. If it were die doubling, other parts of the strike would be affected the same. They are not affected. So it is just a Wheat cent. Note on your overlay area, where the motto differences are seen? They are not altered like that on your coin. So it is just a normal coin from what I can see. Not worth sending in for a slab as the coin is not showing anything like hub doubling. The fees for this service would out weigh any premium for this coin.
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 Posted 07/06/2022  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaRukus660 to your friends list


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 Posted 07/07/2022  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list
Ok Mr. Coop.

Thank you for your explaination. This mean we just ignore the mark on the lips, the mark under the 3, which is 'look like' 6 and the mark behind the Lincoln shoulder? Yes the doubling is too weak, of course if it's were die doubling.

However, thank you all for guide and teach me and being patience.
I go with you Mr. Coop, for not send it to grading service.

Case closed.

i'll start new topic next time.

Solo
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 Posted 07/07/2022  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentSation to your friends list
"I'm sorry, there's a lot of error in my grammar"

LOL, I was thinking the opposite.

You do better than most here [US] that have only been speaking the one language [English] their whole lives. I am impressed.

English is a difficult language. Your punctuation looks good and you know when to correctly use the word "too".
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 Posted 07/08/2022  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
On only one doubled die I can think of has doubled lips on Abe:
1953-D-Lincoln-Need-Help-For-Grading-And-Possibility-Error
But along with the hub doubling on the lips, the rest of the coin is showing very strong hub doubling of the other devices:
1953-D-Lincoln-Need-Help-For-Grading-And-Possibility-Error
If your coin was a doubled die, then [i]all the other devices would also be affected[/]. They are not affected to that same extent.
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 Posted 07/09/2022  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
I see it too. But can't explain it. Maybe some kind of stain?
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 Posted 07/09/2022  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list
Looks to me like PMD. Looks like it took a hit, the tip of the nose is kind of flattened as well.
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 Posted 07/10/2022  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list

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But along with the hub doubling on the lips, the rest of the coin is showing very strong hub doubling of the other devices:


I got it Mr. Coop, thank you again. Although I am sure it was doubled, but I know mine is too weak for doubled. As the image I've posted before. The 'trust' slightly moved to the rim. Based on my overlay picture.
That's why the doubled on this Abe weak. In other words, we can say it nothing or just a bag marks.

Also the mark on the head and tail of '5' that I assume as '9' also the mark under '3' that I assume as '6'.

So, that's what makes me believe it was doubled.

I believe if it was struck over on the obverse, of course it will be affected on the reverse.
Yes, I haven't bring the overlay of the reverse yet. Because I want to make the obverse clear first before we go to the other topic. (reverse).

I know Mr. Coop, your image is very clear showing the doubled. No doubt. We all can see it.

With all my respect and salute to you Mr. Coop for your patience to explain it.

Stay health.

Solo


To be honest, most of my theory to identified coins is by make the overlay on the coins that's indicated 'doubled' or 'struck over' on other coins.

Of course I knew my theory is not enough to identify it. There's a lot of ways to identify it.


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 Posted 07/10/2022  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list

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I see it too. But can't explain it. Maybe some kind of stain?


Maybe yes Mr. Cujohn, or it just a bag mark?
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Looks to me like PMD. Looks like it took a hit, the tip of the nose is kind of flattened as well.


Yes, the tip on the nose look flattened Mr.11997755.
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 Posted 07/10/2022  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list

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English is a difficult language. Your punctuation looks good and you know when to correctly use the word "too".


Truthfully, yes. Mr. CentSation. English is a difficult language.

I'd love to learn everything, something new, like numismatic, my new hobbies.
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