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Pillar of the Community
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quote: Originally posted by Sap
I hate to break it to you, Georgiestar, but that third coin isn't French - it's from Switzerland. 
Still a neat coin, though. 
Thats what I thought aswell, but wasn't confident saying it. the cross gave it away for me.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The older 1864 French Dix Centemes (10 cents) has the Mint Mark "BB" the mintage is 3,053,000. There were also "A" and "K" Mint marks that year. Anything that old that you can hold in your hand has a fasination with me.
I love the design on the 1913 5 centemes coin. Mintage for 1913 is 12,603,000. This design was minted in 1901 to 1921 (there is no 1918,or 1919). The 1921 is the rare one with only 142,000 minted and can fetch a couple hundred dollars depending on condition. I have this coin in 1902 and a 1908. Your photo shows the name of the designer, I had not noticed it before and thought someone wrote their name on that coin. LOL
Helvetia has been on Swiss coins for many years. That design started in 1901 and is basicly the same today (with an addition of a extra star) Your 1920 B has a Mintage of 5,400,000.
These sort of coins get you hooked on collecting.
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 Australia
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Wow, you never know what you'll learn on the forum.
I wasn't aware of the "added star" on Swiss coins. Sure enough, it's there in the catalogue once you looked for it - 22 stars up to 1982, 23 from 1983. I found out why after a bit of searching.
Each star represents one "full canton" or member-republic in the confederation (there are also three "half-cantons", which apparently don't merit stars of their own). In 1979, Switzerland added a new canton when Jura was created from the northern part of Bern.
Guess they had to wait a couple of years for the mint (which happens to be in Bern) to change the dies?
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
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wow thanks for the info everyone :) I do have other ones like the 1864 (bird one) in the A, the B, the M and K :) and I like yours Tiggersmob :) I have another of the 1913 one, its dated 1904, its nice to know you learnt something aswell...one good thing about scanners that it pics up the minor details :) the swiss one I thought was french eh :P thanks for spotting that hehe, and I have a lot more old coins from different countrys..some of them are so old you cant read them lol..I love it :)
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Valued Member
United States
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France has a long coinage history, and I have collected lots of French coins. They are among my favorites. Here are a few examples from my collection. I have a lot more, but most of them haven't been scanned. The coin below is a silver denier of Charles the Bald, dating from 840-875. Coins of that time are typically rather crude, but this one is a bit better than most.  The next coin is a silver denier of the Abbey of St. Martial in Limoges, one of the many regional issues of France during the middle ages. This one dates from c. 1100-1300.  The next coin is a gold ecu of Philip VI. Gold coins of this time are hard to find, but a few years ago I was lucky to find this one for a reasonable price. The best medieval designs appear on large, thin gold coins such as this one. This one dates from 1328-1350.  The next is a 20-franc gold coin of Napoleon III. This is one of the many common French gold coins available for a price close to its melt value. This one is dated 1854A (Paris mint).  The next one is a 20-franc gold coin of 1909 - another common bullion issue. This is one of my favorite designs; it reminds me of the classical designs of the U.S. coins that began to appear around that time.  These are just a few, and there are many others that I like, but unfortunately I don't have a lot of them scanned - generally I only scan the more valuable coins and coins dating before 1700. Many of the less expensive coins are just as attractive. Heather
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Awesome Coins!
And amazing coins heather!!!
Love the style! Enjoy the community! I'm sure you'll like it!
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
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wow!! *looks in amazement* I cant believe you have coins that old :) and there in super condition! did you treate them with something?
Edited by Georgiestar 03/11/2006 3:23 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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They are just as I bought them. These are unusually nice; most of the really old ones are in bad shape. Beat-up French coins from c. 1100-1400 can sometimes be found for as low as US$10. The Charles the Bald denier and the gold ecu of Philip VI were a few hundred dollars each, but the Limoges denier was well under $100. (If I remember correctly, it was about $40.) Old coins such as these are surprisingly inexpensive.
Heather
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
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oh right well there really nice especially the 1909 one I like animal designs :) thanks for sharing them :) mine are old and beat up mostly...I will have to do some more scanning though :D I have some which are lablled RF.. I'm debating weather theyre french or not though lol well they have holes In the middle 
Edited by Georgiestar 03/12/2006 4:11 pm
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Moderator
 Australia
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Georgiestar: yes, coins with RF are French - it's short for Republique Francaise. They have that on several of their coin designs, such as several pre-WWII coins, as well as the modern euro designs. The euro coins are particularly confusing, given that Italy uses an RI monogram, similar looking at first glance.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
104 Posts |
oh right thats what I thought.. but didnt want to make the same mistake as I did with the swiss lol.. I have some euros which my dad gave me when he went to germany and holand, they do not say the country on them but have recogniseable german symbols like the leaf and the bird.., I also have one from spain and sure enough theres a french one :) no idea how I got it lol.. anyway here are the french coins with the holes in the middle, http://hometown.aol.co.uk/HiOHell/i...s/hole+2.jpg back http://hometown.aol.co.uk/HiOHell/i.../rfcoins.jpgon the pics ive noticed that theres a green line going across all three of the coins this seems to be a scanner error ;p the hole in the middle fasinates me I have some spanish coins with them aswell :)..
Edited by Georgiestar 03/13/2006 4:16 pm
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Pillar Of The Community
Turkey
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Speaking of old French ; I have a 1857 20 Francs. The obverse is either a huge error with two sides filled-like, or someone literally "filled" the sides leaving the mid of the coin normal as a stripe. On the reverse says SF.ANGIVS.DVX.MLI.(O)LVDOVICVS.M Also I guess something is written on the collar of the king, but can't get it. The coin is excessively worn, seems like it is copper plated zinc . I wouldn't be surprised if it is a replica. Anyone seen something alike? 
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Moderator
 Australia
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That one's just weird, RenaL. It appears that Emperor Napoleon III's portrait and titles have been replaced with those of the crusading saint-king, Louis VI of France (or some other famous old French king named Louis). I can think of two explanations: 1. Emperor Napoleon III was pretty unpopular with his people after he surrendered in the Franco-Prussian war. Perhaps a French patriot (with monarchist tendencies?) obliterated his portrait in this way. 2. It's an "evasive imitation", sort of like the fake guineas and "To Hanover" coins in Britain. If this were the case, then the forger would have relied on the distinctly different obverse as his defence if he were caught: "I was selling religious medals. It's not my fault people were trying to use them as money!". My guess? It all depends on whether there's any genuine gold under there. If yes, then explanation 1; if no, then explanation 2.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar Of The Community
Turkey
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I could bet on #2 the last element in this coin would be gold:) Thanks a bunch Sap  It's good to know I have another imitation among the coins:LOL
Edited by RenaL 03/14/2006 4:02 pm
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
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oh wow that is so cool 
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