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As pointed out, toning isn't relative to the debate, but as we all know what is considered "ugly" or "attractive" toning is a very personal decision. Some people here are far too focused upon what the coin looks like, and simply ignore David Hall's unprofessional position on toned Peace dollars. What the coin looks like is not important. Heck, the grade it was assigned is not important either. What is important is that the coin is NOT artificially toned (AT). The coin has original surfaces. |
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How did this go from guess the grade to a personal attack on David Hall as being unprofessional.? David Hall is very much the professional. It was his opinion only. Deal with it. PCGS was grading grading toned Peace dollars during the David Hall era as they do now. |
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How did this go from guess the grade to a personal attack on David Hall as being unprofessional.? The thread was always about David Hall and his actions back in 2009. Read all the posts (and go to the links provided); this was never merely about guessing the coin's grade. David Hall didn't offer just a personal opinion. He made a professional statement that was wrong as a means to take a low-swipe at NGC. Hall's statement about Peace dollars is still on PCGS CoinFacts and a link to it is provided earlier in this thread. Anybody that says any Peace dollar with red, blue, green, or yellow on it is artificially toned is making an asinine statement. Well, that is exactly what David Hall said. And just think about all the people who purchased toned Peace dollars residing in PCGS holders only to be told by one of the main people behind PCGS that their coins are artificially toned ? lol Edited by TheColorofMoney
08/17/2022 6:30 pm
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So, where is this conversation heading?
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So, where is this conversation heading? According to David Hall, ANY Peace dollar with red, blue, green, yellow, etc on it, residing in ANY TPG holder, is artificially toned (AT). lol |
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I don't remember a "Leather Pouch Sale" from Heritage the time I remember this particular coin, was from the Heritage sale #60257 in April 2022 - the "Attractively Toned Coins Showcase Sale" It was lot #93174 and IMO one of the more ugly Peace dollars I've come across over the years, there were a few attractive examples that sold for nearly identical money (around $1000) in that sale like this one...  MS65+ or even this low grade MS62...  I'd take either of them over the one discussed. By that's just me and honestly I'd spend my money on one of the many wonderfully colored toned coins in that sale. Many of the Indian cents were sublime.  Here is the entire sale. https://coins.ha.com/c/search-resul...ionNo-051517"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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It most certainly is about guess the grade. That is what you asked in your first sentence after the header ( Please submit your grade ). People were doing just that until you hijacked your own thread. Maybe you should start a new thread. Something along the lines of. Why I disagree with David Halls statement concerning toned Peace dollarsEdited by Everest
08/17/2022 7:25 pm
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So what is your goal here?
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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It most certainly is about guess the grade. That is what you asked in your first sentence after the header ( Please submit your grade ). People were doing just that until you hijacked your own thread. Maybe you should start a new thread. Read the title of the thread. Also it was explained in the first post that there is big story - a debate surrounding the coin and others like it. It was never just about the grade. The "Give your grade" was a means of introducing the coin and the story \ debate behind it. You have a habit of telling others what their intent was when they created a thread. Edited by TheColorofMoney
08/19/2022 8:37 pm
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I don't remember a "Leather Pouch Sale" from Heritage the time I remember this particular coin, was from the Heritage sale #60257 in April 2022 - the "Attractively Toned Coins Showcase Sale" The coin in this thread was sold in 2009 at Heritage. It was part of small hoard of coins that were found in a leather pouch. David Hall stepped in and said any such toned coins - even in PCGS holders - are artificially toned - which drew the ire of dealers and collectors - because what he said just ain't true. I made links to what he said and also gave the dates earlier in this thread. Quote:Is this one of the Peace dollars that came out of the old (2013/14 era) leather pouch hoard perhaps? The above is what you asked. So you did ask if the coin of this thread was a part of the "leather pouch hoard." So based upon your query I thought you and I were talking about the same thing. Edited by TheColorofMoney
08/19/2022 8:37 pm
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So what is your goal here? It was already discussed. All given in the first post to the thread. Edited by TheColorofMoney
08/19/2022 7:56 pm
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Thank you for your prompt and courteous response. You represent yourself well. All the best in your collecting endeavors.
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Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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I have to say the original images you posted are far less appealing than the slab images.
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This coin is really fake toning. Point, I will not answer more. Was attributed with out took in consideration the toning. This it is a hoard coin. Not many people buy this hoard, maybe 6 to 10.
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