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1931 S Wheat Penny With Layered 99 & 11

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 Posted 08/16/2022  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Plainduck to your friends list
Sorry not better pictures. Having hard time staying under 300MB

Thank You everyone for your input

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 Posted 08/16/2022  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Definitely not worth grading.
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 Posted 08/16/2022  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
rubbing is much worse than water, and can seriously devalue coins as rare as this
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 Posted 08/16/2022  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
You should not have cleaned it, at all.
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 Posted 08/16/2022  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
Ouch.

The fact that this coin was on the end of a roll sold on ebay makes me wonder if it could have been evaluated by the seller and they deemed it beyond conservation.

The full images show the surfaces as rubbed.

The coin IS a key date and still has value.

EDIT: Rereading this topic I too am a little worried about the authenticity of the coin.
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 Posted 08/17/2022  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
Fake
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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Plainduck to your friends list
After looking at this coin very closely I'm afraid that "Petespockets 55" is the Winner & I'm the loser. The 3 is 100% wrong! The one on PCGS web site has the 3 on the bottom tip being closer to the 9. See picture attached. My coin clearly has the top of the 3 being closer to the 9. I think it is fake what is your opinion?
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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:32 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Late to the table here but I would agree the coin is a fake. Whole coin pics are, as OP notes, not so good, but the date pic just looks all kinds of wrong.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Here is a fake example:
1931-S-Wheat-Penny-With-Layered-99-&-11
Only example I have of a fake coin.

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 Posted 08/18/2022  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Sorry to hear it turned out this way for you Plainduck.

The 3 looked off and the "MD" around the 9, 3 reminded me of "Longacre doubling", instead of MD.
https://www.error-ref.com/longacre-...%99s%20sides.

BTW- Longacre doubling isn't seen on US coinage after about 1907.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
That straight-on shot of the 3 is indeed a dead giveaway.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
was this one constructed from some other date, if so which date? the final 1 in the date looks like it has glue around its edges
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 Posted 08/18/2022  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LazerPig to your friends list
I would guess the 1 is shaved then superglued on a 193x-S
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 Posted 08/19/2022  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Plainduck to your friends list
Just want to say "Thank You"

For your insight.
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 Posted 08/31/2022  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list

Quote:
I would guess the 1 is shaved then superglued on a 193x-S


It would have had to have come from a 1930 or a 1935 through 1939 since no S minted Wheat cents were produced in 1932, 1933 or 1934.
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