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PCGS Reholder Question Since The Slabs Actually Melted Internally

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 Posted 09/06/2022  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Technically you melted it by exposing it to high temperatures. You should have to pay for the reholder IMO.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
It seems like the general consensus is that I am guilty. My defense is that the other holders from PCGS and NGC did not melt and they had the same intensity and time spent under the sun in the display case.

I couldn't find any place where PCGS states that, "PCGS does not recommend our holders be exposed to direct sunlight for an extended period of time etc." Besides that excuse, I just wanted to throw in some other verbiage that could help plead my case since I have several of these damaged slabs.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  02:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cointagous to your friends list
Pay the reholder fee as they don't look sellable in their current condition. I cannot think of an explanation that would give PCGS the inclination to bear the cost.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  02:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
Without a doubt you're at fault, and need to pay for the reholdering.

PCGS should not be liable for your negligence.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list
Direct sun spoils things, that's a fact. It is not recommended to keep any things for a long time in the open sun.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
I agree with the consensus that PCGS should not pay for the re-holder.

What makes you think that PCGS should have a written disclaimer somewhere about not placing these in the hot summer sun under glass? My $250 Costa sunglasses did not come with a written warning to not store them on the dash in my car. It's kind of general knowledge that this is a bad idea.

Let us know how it goes for you when you hear back from them.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpeedDemonND to your friends list
I'd imagine you're out of luck since the error was on your part in leaving them out in the sun.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Ouch!

You may get lucky and PCGS will investigate this to gain data on what their holders can handle (knowledge has value).

If not, I would not pay to re-holder it. I would crack it out or sell it as-is to an album filler.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Agree with BadThad.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list

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.crack it out or sell it as-is


I'll still try to convince PCGS but would never re-holder any coin under $100; it just doesn't make financial sense.

I think JB's got the best idea so far in case PCGS Fails to see any merit to absorb the cost.

I will, however, take a photo of the slab before and after I crack it out and put those pictures online along with the coin which should get me a little more money to help with the authenticity of the grade etc.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
FWIW, I would not have expected melting in sun either, but I would have not put them in the sun so as to avoid outgassing from the slab being deposited on the coin. Looks like I'm in the minority, but I think PCGS slabs should be able to stand up to display outdoors for a few hours. It's not like PCGS is a basement slabber using cheapo components.
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 Posted 09/07/2022  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Agree with the consensus, PCGS should not bear the cost of your negligence. Not really different than if you put on a hot stove or in a fireplace. Common sense.
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 Posted 09/10/2022  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnwmakes to your friends list
Agree, PCGS should not pay to re-holder, you basically cooked the in a solar oven under the glass.
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 Posted 09/10/2022  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Damaged due to your negligence and YOU think they should pay for it?

Come on man!
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 Posted 09/10/2022  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
jimbucks- Common sense isn't common.
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