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1836 $1 Gobrecht Dollar Original Judd-60 Die State B Die Alignment I

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 Posted 10/11/2022  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
You can probably get the Etsy seller to give you a "proof of authenticity" certificate. For a few extra bucks he may even be able to put this into a fake PCGS holder for you. Wonder how many 1804 dollars he has available.
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 Posted 10/11/2022  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
@jimbucks, I wish this was a joke, but Etsy is a publicly traded company with much more lax restrictions on selling fakes. Since you mention 1804 dollars, a seller will sell you a set of 1794-1798 5pc set for $28 and to complete your set 1798-1804 7 piece set for another $28. The rub is that they don't even look that bad. This is just not good for our hobby at all.

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 Posted 10/14/2022  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
This came in in all its misspelled label glory. Coin looks really golden and very reflective - more than I anticipated - as I was immediately able to see the reflection of my phone on the coin clearly. Some hairlines visible in the fields. Hard to believe that this was in a museum display for the past 21 years and is now in my private hands. Let me know if you have further thoughts. Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 10/14/2022  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
I am actually very happy that they didn't catch the labeling error and didn't reholder it before it came in. Getting a kick out of having such an obvious mistake on the slab.

The feather detail and sharpness throughout the eagle is really wild.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 10/14/2022  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list
An incredible and beautiful acquisition with a fantastic pedigree, congrats!

I find the label spelling error quite hilarious - while I've seen many goofs on TPG labels over the years, you would think on a coin like this they would have double and triple checked the label and then checked it again!
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 Posted 10/15/2022  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpeedDemonND to your friends list
Congrats on the acquisition. The typo on the label surely is hilarious.
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 Posted 10/15/2022  02:20 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Just saw this thread and PR 64 was my initial thought when I saw the 1st pictures. It looks to be a touch conservatively graded which is as it should be.
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 Posted 03/13/2023  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Thank you for your kind comments. I thought I would share a kind letter that Todd Imhof at Heritage sent me as he forwarded the original flip, envelope and label that held this coin while it was in the Harry Bass collection. It was a nice gesture mixed with a marketing pitch.

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 Posted 03/13/2023  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
A remarkably impressive pedigree for a remarkably impressive coin.
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 Posted 03/13/2023  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
Regarding the one for sale on Etsy, the seller's description tells it all "SILVER Plated with NickelCopper Core"
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 Posted 03/13/2023  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Etsy has become a place crawling with sellers of replica coins. Not sure how a U.S. publicly listed company can get away with that. I suppose at some point they'll be forced to clean up their act like ebay was. It seems like most sellers of replicas are offshore now but the platform is still owned and operated by a domestic firm.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 03/13/2023  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
Many of the listings on Etsy state that it is a replica coin. However, I was under the impression that such fakery was to be prominently labeled. Evidently the Secret Service has much bigger fish to fry than these penny-ante grifters.
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 Posted 03/13/2023  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
But seriously, who among us does NOT own an 1804 "dollar"? It's not magnetic, so it must be genuine!
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 Posted 03/13/2023  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
Lovely coin. Congrats
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 Posted 03/13/2023  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wideglide to your friends list
Someday, when I hit the Powerball! Absolutely stunning coin! I'm going PF-66.
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