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1937 Matte Proof-Like Set - PCGS, ICCS Or CCCS?

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 Posted 10/10/2022  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philoponus6 to your friends list
Here they are:
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1937-Matte-Proof-Like-Set---PCGS,--ICCS-Or-CCCS?
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 Posted 10/10/2022  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
Unfortunately these are mintstate, not a matte specimen set. But the dollar looks particularly nice grade..maybe even a 64? We'd have to see better pics. I'd guess the previous owner wrote PL set since it is in an aftermarket holder that resembles what many 1950s-60s era prooflike sets ended up in.
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 Posted 10/10/2022  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wallyb to your friends list
Very nice indeed. As a potential Canuck buyer I'd prefer to see them individually graded by ICCS, although I'd be strongly tempted to offer on the complete set as is.
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 Posted 10/10/2022  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philoponus6 to your friends list
Thanks for the info, now I assume they are mint state.
Here is another photo of a set. Is this proof-like, or just a bunch of mint state coins?
I have an opportunity to buy a bunch of these. I thought they were proof-like sets, but some of them are labeled MSxx.
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10/10/2022 9:10 pm
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 Posted 10/10/2022  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list
I know that PCGS can evaluate a group of coins at once (for example, I have seen them evaluate the presidents' dollar by 5 pieces or the parks/states quarters). Maybe it 's better to do the same here ? so as not to separate each coin from the set.
Although if the holder is aftermarket, many coins may have different valuations. For example, the cent will be rated as au-58, and the dollar ms-63.
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 Posted 10/10/2022  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list
The 1963 set looks like a put together mint state set not a PL set. It contains 1.1 ounces of silver, so about $20 USD in value.

The 1937 set is also a put together mint state set. If the coins grade MS63-64, the set is worth $250 to $400 USD. Nice set.

Edit to add: I would keep the sets intact as is.
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 Posted 10/10/2022  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philoponus6 to your friends list
Here are a couple more:

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1937-Matte-Proof-Like-Set---PCGS,--ICCS-Or-CCCS?
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 Posted 10/11/2022  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philoponus6 to your friends list
...and a few dollars:
1937-Matte-Proof-Like-Set---PCGS,--ICCS-Or-CCCS?
1937-Matte-Proof-Like-Set---PCGS,--ICCS-Or-CCCS?
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 Posted 10/11/2022  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wallyb to your friends list
philoponus6 if you own the '37 pieces and ever decide to part with keep me in mind, lol.
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 Posted 10/11/2022  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
As you stated earlier, if selling to the Canadian market, it's a no brainer to have them graded by ICCS.

It boggles my mind why PCGS or NGC is recommended for this.
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 Posted 10/11/2022  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philoponus6 to your friends list
wallyb,
I will keep that in mind.
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 Posted 10/11/2022  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Levaril to your friends list

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It boggles my mind why PCGS or NGC is recommended for this.


It really depends on what you are trying to achieve, and of course the value of the coins in question. I too would recommend ICCS for this particular set if you feel the need to send it to a TPG, as long as the coins are in the 63-64 range.

There are some sets though that are well worth sending to PCGS for grading. Typically for me they would be higher value sets, like older specimens or PL's in higher grades. I would never send anything to NGC from Canada.

Even with this set, if the dollar was determined to be 65-66 it could be worth sending to PCGS. Registry set people would be interested in it. Where it would make the most sense is if you planned on sending it to somewhere like Heritage some day to sell it. PCGS would do way better there than ICCS.

The other advantage of PCGS is if you want it in a hard slab rather than a soft flip if you plan on keeping it for a long time. Those big dollars in particular don't do that well in ICCS flips. That only makes sense if they have a decent amount of value though.
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 Posted 10/11/2022  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philoponus6 to your friends list
Here's one I won't be sending in. I purchased this set a few months ago. The insert was missing, but the coins are very well preserved. I am not sure if this was a good trade-off - having well preserved coins w/o the insert vs. having the original insert and with the coins possibly having been handled.

Any comments?

The dime has some toning along one edge.
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 Posted 10/13/2022  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Levaril to your friends list
If the gold $20 happens to be really high grade, particularly if it has heavy cameo, it could have some decent value beyond bullion. The penny appears to have a decent amount of cameo, so again depending on grade it could be worth doing something with. The others, unless they are incredibly high grade, aren't likely to be worth sending anywhere. That set is very common, at least for the 1c-$1 portion. Even the gold $20 are easy to come by from the Proof sets.
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 Posted 10/14/2022  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wallyb to your friends list
I think you made the right choice on well preserved. I agree with the comments of Levaril. I still think the '67 $20 piece is one of the nicest gold coins out there.
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