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I wanted to update this thread and express my frustration with NGC. I had this struck through error attributed at NGC, and they called it struck through a one cent planchet. Although the diameter of the struck through area is slightly larger than either a cent or dime, I suspect that's because the object thinned and spread when the SBA was struck. It makes no sense that this could be struck through a one cent planchet because a Lincoln Cent has no reeding, and even if it did, a blank planchet would also have no reeding. So I called NGC and explained why this should be labeled as struck through a minted dime, and at first they responded that the label was correct. Then I emailed them and asked how a one cent planchet could leave Reeding Marks on the SBA, and they asked me to send the coin back for re-evaluation. Well, I sent it back to them as instructed, and they returned it a few days later without any changes. Am I wrong to think that the error attribution is incorrect? It really doesn't make a big difference in the value of the coin, but I'd sort of like the label to correctly describe the error.  |
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Very nice error coin! Too bad that NGC labeled it incorrectly.
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Error coin has an error label.  At least it denotes an error if not the error. You tried. At this point I would probably have let it go (the mistake, not the coin). |
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Nice coin and photos! I agree the label is wrong but I doubt it affects the value.
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What, you must be wrong, NGC never makes a mistake.  It makes you wonder what it takes to get a job at NGC. My 10 year old granddaughter can see the reeds. Who knows, maybe it might be worth more as an error within an error. But I'd want it corrected. Very nice error. Edited by Cujohn
08/23/2023 5:13 pm
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Hey NGC:  Still a very neat error. I'm curious why you chose NGC for this error coin? So they provided no explanation for their decision not to correct the label? I'd be tempted to go on the NGC forum, if there is one, and ask members there for an opinion. Embarrass the stew out of them for making an obvious blunder. Otherwise, I might try my luck at the PCGS forum and let them rake NGC over the coals for some satisfaction.  Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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That's a good idea. Maybe I'll just post a question on the "Ask NGC" forum. It still bugs me that it's mislabeled, I might have to try again to get them to change it.
No reason in particular using NGC over PCGS. I just had a submission ready to go to NGC including a different coin I that I requested NCS conservation, and I figured it was a pretty straightforward attribution.
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Stuff like this is why I think TPGs are only doing a disservice to the hobby (especially when it comes to errors and varieties). This is just embarrassing considering how obvious the Reeding Marks are. |
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wow, what a Mess on that label.
I would start a topic in both NGC and PCGS forums...
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The coin responsible for the impression on the reverse most likely started out as a dime planchet that nestled against the collar at one pole and that received a uniface first strike. It remained behind in the striking chamber, shifted at least a little bit, and was struck into the planchet represented by your specimen. I see no reason to think it was assisted.
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Edited by Morgans Dad
08/24/2023 3:09 pm
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as always, Mike has the best explanation of what happened.
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The coin responsible for the impression on the reverse most likely started out as a dime planchet that nestled against the collar at one pole and that received a uniface first strike. It remained behind in the striking chamber, shifted at least a little bit, and was struck into the planchet represented by your specimen. Mike, thank you for your expert analysis! So it may have been a dime or cent planchet that gained some reeding against the collar of the SBA, before leaving the reed impressions on the next strike. That would explain why there is reeding visible on only a part of the strike through area. So perhaps the NGC label is correct after all, although it would have been nice if they provided some explanation! |
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Yes, it could certainly have been a cent planchet. Judging from the absolute and relative size of the impression, this would seem more likely than a dime planchet.
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