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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like there is some metal movement evident along the clip to me. I agree this doesn't look right and may be PMD. |
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Pillar of the Community
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The first and third images are fairly clear.
It would be nice to get those two with the light coming from the opposite direction. IMHO, there does seem to be some metal distortion along the curve.
But as others have said, with a clip of this proportion we would normally see more pronounced distortion.
A clear image of where the rim and the curve meet might have more clues as well.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks similar to mine  P.s. - mine isn't.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Your input is appreciated.
L. Beach Coin show is in Feb. and I will be taking this one with me for consultation and opinions.
Will keep you all posted.
Meanwhile, this post will remain open.
Thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Can you show the side of the clip? This will talk about. Sound like fishy this clip. I want to see the side seem to be angled.
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Moderator
United States
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More conversations can be found here:
/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32990#3775864
edit: Huh for some reason the hot link is not working here. I went to the other topic and clicked the "Get link to this reply"
Can any Mods figure out what happened please?
Edited by Dearborn
01/19/2023 3:31 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thank you for showing us this. I agree, it doesn't look legit. My guess it was probably done intentionally by someone using a bench grinder.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@silviosi and others...more images.   |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Sorry to tell you but it is not legitim clip. was cut after strike.
Keep for your own example but next time do not use metal plyers, if was legitim coin you will damaged.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The devices don't fall off the edge like they would on a clip. They are to crisp.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
701 Posts |
@silviosi...for your info, I use metal plyers when I'm working on a project on my house or on my car.
You have no idea how I acquired this coin, so I find it very offensive for you to insinuate
any wrong doing on my part.
I don't need to impress you or any other on this forum for kudos or insults.
Be carefull with your words.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Believe7 I'm sure Silviosi meant only the best. The pliers are made of a harder metal than the coin and could easily damage it. As for the coin I feel it is a legitimate clip. In the enlargements I am posting I have circled what looks to be evidence of weakening of the rim that I call my Smith effect . In your photo of the edge I have circled a ridge in the metal that I would expect to see in the edge of a legitimate clip. Also , a clip of this size will often not exibit weakened devices at the edge of the clip , nor will it show a Blakesly effect.    Edited by stoneman227
01/19/2023 9:07 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@stoneman227.
Interesting, and thanks for your observation.
Planning on taking the coin with me to the L.Beach coin show for a free assessment in February.
Will keep you posted in about 2 more weeks.
Thanks again.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:
... As for the coin I feel it is a legitimate clip. ... I agree it appears to be legitimate for the reasons Stoneman mentions. There is also a "dimple" in the metal towards the tip of the crescent in the first added image that wouldn't be there on a "grinder" coin. IMH, the dimple could be a product of pressure from the dies. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
701 Posts |
@petespocket55...thanks man.
I was told that at this stage, the coin is called a fragment.
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