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1652 Pine Tree Shilling - Opinions Please!

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 Posted 01/31/2023  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Lovely example. Congratulations on the acquisition.

Complete guess on grade is VF20
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 Posted 01/31/2023  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
Nice looking coin.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
thats sweet and an Awesome pickup

definitely out of my wheelhouse for grading but looks like a little weakness in strike on the obv but the lettering is very sharp and especially of note are the buttons around the date.

I'm with kbbpll at VF35
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 Posted 01/31/2023  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list
sweet coin. I'm between 15 and 20. its NGC so ill say they called it 20.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
Nice and historical coin. The dream of many a Numismatist. Congratulations!

Grade: better than my F15, so I'll say VF25.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
Sorry TimNH, not sure what the heck I was thinking
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 Posted 01/31/2023  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list
OK, drum roll... and, 20 it is. Nickelsearcher & Carr for the win! Mine I think has a weak strike on the tree but the wear everywhere else seems better than 20. Most here seem to agree, glad to see.

Also I wanted decent centering where you could read all of MASATHVSETS, tough to find, wow these must be the worst centered coins ever.

Thanks all!

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 Posted 02/01/2023  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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wow these must be the worst centered coins ever.


weren't these individually struck be hand? dont think there was much quality control then

i overgarded it at VF35 based on the sharpness of the lettering and buttons. I'm wondering what NGC looks at on these. looks like there is more meat on the bones than a 20
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 Posted 02/01/2023  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Gosh that's a gorgeous coin. Very impressed and jealous, congrats Tim !
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 Posted 02/01/2023  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Indeed, just incredibly cool.
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 Posted 02/01/2023  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Do you know what the reference to Dill on the holder refers to? I've previously tried to research that name and came up mostly empty (other than a collector out of Missouri).
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 Posted 02/01/2023  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list

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Do you know what the reference to Dill on the holder refers to?


No idea (it's Diii, three i's) , just spent 5 minutes searching and no closer to an answer. If an old silver pro could chime in...?

Thank you again to everyone who replied, been fun reading the comments, I will post my personal "colonial type set" when I fill in the final 2 (easier) holes.
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 Posted 02/01/2023  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list
from this heritage auction: https://coins.ha.com/itm/colonials/.../1348-3318.s

The reverse is a further revision of a die that saw extensive use and is now in its fourth state following its use for Salmon 4-D (Noe-4), 4-Di (Noe-5), 5-Di (Noe-6), 6-Dii (Noe-7), 7a-Diii (Noe-9)
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A beauty!
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