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Pillar of the Community
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@paralyse what doesn't look right?
It weighs right, exact diameter, pings on the app, and looks right under a loupe.
The fakes I have seen in Rome have failed nearly all of these.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Both look "antiqued".
Without seeing in hand, would have passed on both.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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@acloco ... Besides "antiqued" what sticks out?
I did every test I normally do ... Weights are 26.63 and 26.58; diameter is exact; they ping under the app and there's no signs of molding or working like the dozens of cast fakes I see in Rome. Under a 10x loupe there's bag marks, circulation signs, dings, etc.
If these are fakes, they're at least silver. But I am reasonable confident they are authentic. Unless, of course, I'm missing something.
*Edited the weights...
Edited by Roma2021
03/18/2023 6:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
VG10, possibly details, cleaned on the 03-S. Obverse diagonal hairlines across the bust.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36844 Posts |
03-S VG-10, 79 VF-35 details, cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1130 Posts |
@Ty and IGE, are you seeing any reason to doubt authenticity?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Just to elaborate, the 1879 looks off in a variety of ways, especially on the reverse
Wreath, breast, and lettering all look wrong, especially ONE DOLLAR and IGWT
If it's real it's been heavily damaged (polished/cleaned) and retoned over it but the overall appearance of the coin just isn't right.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1130 Posts |
Looking closely...I see some area for concern. Wear or evidence of a fake? I've bought about 50 Morgans in Rome. They all weigh right, diameter is exact, and they all ping on the app. I have seen about 100+ fakes. They are all well underweight ... Usually 22-25 g, off by a millimeter or two when stacked, none have pinged on the app, and the lettering has casting bubbles and holes. I am curious to hear and learn more...   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
79 looks authentic to me, but cleaned. I just see a series of hits on the lettering that are causing it to look the way it does (in your last image). VF Details, cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Thanks @ty. That's what I thought. Finding uncleaned coins in Italy is near impossible.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36844 Posts |
The 79 looks genuine to me.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1130 Posts |
So ... Presuming the 79 and 03-s are authentic. What is a fair retail price for them at an LCS?
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03/20/2023 07:22 am
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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based on my grade of VG10 the 09S maybe retail at an LCS $120US
the 79S is common coin in high grades and would not have a collector premium. maybe $25
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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@pan. I am very surprised by that! I paid €90 for the 03-S,79, and two WLHs.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
18700 Posts |
good buy  |
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