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1892-1893 World's Columbian Exposition Medal

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 Posted 04/14/2023  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@morgans dad:

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Did you Research the Name on Your Medal?

My understanding is that Alonso was awarded his medal based on the quality of the four drawings he submitted for a Triumphal Arch design.


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 Posted 04/14/2023  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
This medals' case, design pattern, is rather interesting. At a quick first glance, it almost looks like condensation on a glass of ice water (without my readers). Upon close examination, it appears to be a European ivy, that bears fruit. I'm speculating this is intended to make a connection (outreach) of the originating Exploration Continent, to the newly discovered Continent. Might be a stretch, who knows what Designer/Engineers were thinking in the 1890's... Just throwing it out there...
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 Posted 04/15/2023  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@eaglebub7: Interesting perspective regarding the medal's aluminum case.

I have always viewed the case's design as simply a result of the then-current popularity of floral designs (very popular during the Victorian age). In other words, "decorative" vs. "symbolic." I guess there's always more to consider!



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 Posted 04/15/2023  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
Acompanied with commems great post on the "Sunday" controversy http://goccf.com/t/443829. This article expresses issues of "the day", as well as aftermath of the Exposition. From the Chicago History encyclopedia http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohist...es/1386.html
It is certainly worth the read...
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 Posted 04/16/2023  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
@ Eagle,

Thanks for the Added Posted Information, I saw COMMEMS Posted Original Case for the Medal, It is a Very Intresting Design. I believe You have hit the Nail Hard on the Head, I too believe the Shown Flora is of the Ivy, European Type, Shown " bearing " fruit. I think Your 100% correct in Your anology,

Here's where I am at, I do NOT have access to the Medal or any other piece, Let's go over what We know, We know the Mint Was involved in Making This medal.
We know Augustus Saint-Gaudens was Involved in Making the Design for This medal also.

We Know His Design for the Reverse for This medal was REJECTED.

We Know Charles Barber, the U S Mint's Engraver Also designed a Reverse for This medal and it was Accepted to Be on This Medal.

We know from Posted Information that There were Approx 20,000 Medals handed out, after Minting/Striking Them, ONLY given out to Show Exhibitor Vendors, ONLY!!!

We know the Medal posted and seen has the Recipients name C.L. ALONSO.

We know from posted information that C.L ALONSO was awarded This Medal because of the Four Quality Drawings He submitted for the Designs of the " Triumphal Arch Design."!

It is These Four Drawings I am seeking help finding what they LOOK LIKE, I am also seeking Information about Seeing the Reverse design , of Augustus Saint-Gaudens REJECTED Design drawings.

There are Many unanswered questions that Should be Researched. This Topic is not only a Very interesting one, it is a Very Educational one Too.

Gaudens, Barber, Alonse, Very Respected, Very Well Known Bright minds of the Days. To see a Numismatic Historic Piece like the FOUR Drawings , Like the St-Gaudens Double Eagle Original Art Work Design Drawings or the Mold or Galvano that Came from One of These !!!!

PS, If I am not getting the Proper Exposure Here, I will post the TOPIC of my own, I Will post ANY and All Updates, when and If ......


I appreciate Any and All Thoughts and Input, Thanks to All , In Advance, Mike MD.
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 Posted 04/16/2023  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
Here is one of the submissions, though I can't tell who presented this. This is a monster size arch. https://www.onverticality.com/blog/...iumphal-arch
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 Posted 04/16/2023  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
Here is a link to archival info scan from a book "The World's Fare", by H. G. Cutler.
There may be addition info., that I have not read through.
https://archive.org/details/worldsf...view=theater
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 Posted 04/16/2023  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
The following link is not specific to the Arch, rather conceptual structures in general, relating to the fare. One of them is pretty far out there and kinda reminds me of the "Jetsons" for some odd reason.
https://www.onverticality.com/blog
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 Posted 04/16/2023  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
Let's not forget or overlook, the 1893 Expo basically introduced electricity to America, arguably the most integral component of our society today. Design of structures and grounds incorporated this, which surely propelled the acceptance of "AC", which powers your home, today. If you haven't seen the movie "The Current War", it's worth a look, for a couple hours. Light bulb intentional
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 Posted 04/17/2023  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
Eagle, Great Additional Information You have Posted......


John, Please read, Page 391, 8th paragraph down, The description given about the Tower's GLOBE Atop the Tower... Please read and let me know IF it reminds you of anything You have heard of or seen before, Thanks ... Sleep Well Please Keep it Coming.....

PS, I hear the name Triumphal Art Design and the Photos or pictures Shown are NOT the Full Detailed FOUR Drawings sought to see. Where are the FOUR Drawings C.L.ALONSO submitted for the Chicago World's Fair Exposition .!!!!!!!

As Lt. Columbo would Always say, Oh, .... Ahhhh, Just One More Question...........
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EAGLE,

The GALVANO I am Talking about has been Found. Actually, The Origin was Identified, Not The Artist(s). It's a Complete Thread about the 1892-3 World's Columbian Exposition Fair, Which We thought was dated 1892-3, NO, it's dated 1853!!!!!

The History posted from MY Posts in 2011 have come to Light. The Entire Topic I replied to Today and is in The Tokens, Medals and Other Forum, PLEASE FEEL FRE TO SEE THE Answers I have Found out, and Forget, Thanks EAGLE for All Your Support, I will Not, soon Forget.......

PS, I have asked the same Moderator to MOVE the Entire Topic to Here...... Enjoy, The Experts and Knowledge found Here, Then and Now,
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 Posted 04/17/2023  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list

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All Your Support, I will Not, soon Forgot.......

Happy to help whenever I can, MD
Your medal is lovely!
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