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Bessie Is Engaged. Is This A Die Chip? (2023 Quarter)

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 Posted 05/30/2023  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add A1agrl to your friends list
I will do my best, but must admit that I am not tech savvy and the SIM (?) card on my scope has never worked. So, I may not get back to you on this for a little while. Like you, I am intrigued. The blemish is small, but is in proportion to the ring finger of Bessie's hand. I know its most likely nothing.... another spitting horse! Thanks again for the help.
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 Posted 05/30/2023  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
do you have a computer or laptop?
I have a Tomlov scope too, and I connect it to my PC via USB cable, then I start the 'Camera' app and use that to save images.
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 Posted 05/30/2023  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jess1234 to your friends list
Love the title « Bessie is Engaged » lol!!!
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 Posted 06/02/2023  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add A1agrl to your friends list
Per your instructions I connected my Tomlov scope to my PC and took the attached photos while tilting the coin. It is my belief the blemish is incuse.
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 Posted 06/02/2023  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
I'm glad it worked for you. Great image. I'll have to say that it looks like a strike through, maybe grease.
Thanks for the follow up.
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 Posted 06/02/2023  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add A1agrl to your friends list
You're welcome. I also think it must be a strike through, but not sure how a strike thru of an object could repeat it self in the same place over and over without being shifted. Could the die have had a raised rough edge to the design that, after several hits, broke away?
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Per your instructions I connected my Tomlov scope to my PC and took the attached photos while tilting the coin.
Well done! That is a great demonstration of how well the scope can image a coin.
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 Posted 06/02/2023  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

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but not sure how a strike thru of an object could repeat it self in the same place over and over without being shifted. Could the die have had a raised rough edge to the design that, after several hits, broke away?

that is a great question. Can you now get a few images of the other coins and post them here the same way you did the last one? I want to see if there are very subtle changes we didn't see on your earlier images.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add A1agrl to your friends list
Per your last request I am attaching five images of five different coins. I tried to turn the coins to capture the blemish at the same angle. One thing I noticed is that at one certain angle the light seems to reflect a rim around a darker center. Anyway, let me know your thoughts. I think this is so interesting.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Well I'm seeing a progression with these. So I think this is a lump of hard grease that was on the die and it changed slightly with each strike. I think you have some nice quarters that show a sequence of strikes. Next thing to do is try to put them in the proper order.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add A1agrl to your friends list
I will do my best on that, but what will it show? And, what should I do with such a series of coins? Do these coins fall into a category? And should I have one or all validated by a third party? At best these are MS67 or less.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
It won't really show anything special - once you figure out the strike order, you can put them into 2x2's and label them in sequence for your collection.
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 Posted 06/04/2023  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add A1agrl to your friends list
By what description would I title this repetitive strike through error on several coins. Are sequential strike throughs of this type a Variety? Or, are varieties only assigned to Double Dies?
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 Posted 06/04/2023  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DMN to your friends list

Nice close up image!
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 Posted 06/04/2023  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Well it is not a variety, a variety is a repeatable event, such as what you mentioned a Doubled die, or an RPM, or something as simple as the 1960 and 1970 large and small dates, or even the 7 different varieties of the 1\982 Lincoln Cent.
I would most likely call this a ' Struck Through Grease'.
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