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New Tets From Elymais

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 Posted 07/02/2023  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list
I bought it back in the 1980s from Alex G. Malloy. Either his auction listing was wrong or I forgot to add two more II on the paper flip. I just looked on Vcoins and it matches a Orodes III/Artemis. All these years it's been misattributed LOL.
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 Posted 07/02/2023  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list
Well, it also depends what reference was used by the seller. Pieter Anne van't Haaff's Catalogue of Elymaean Coinage, published in 2007, has pretty much superseded the earlier references like De Morgan, BMC, Sear, Mitchiner, and Alram. Anne adjusted some of the attributions in his study. So, in some cases, coins listed as issues of a particular ruler in one of the older studies have a different king associated with them in van't Haaff. Welcome to the ever-changing world of Elymaean numismatics. Not for the faint of heart.
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 Posted 07/03/2023  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list
A super group of coins, and congrats on acquiring the Orodes I tetradrachm, Bob.

We don't see much of the coins of Elymais, so these posts with descriptions and history are really interesting. A lot can be learned from an image and some text. I had been looking at an Elymais (Susiana) Orodes I bronze Drachm EX Dr. Hubert Lanz, Munich (his attribution to Orodes I and grading), but obviously there weren't any. (van't Haaff 16.3.2-1A) Another misattributed coin avoided.

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 Posted 07/03/2023  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list
Thanks for the comments, Jim.


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...van't Haaff 16.3.2-1A


Yes, that would be Orodes III according to the latest research (van't Haaff).
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 Posted 07/04/2023  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Super coins Bob.
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 Posted 07/04/2023  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list


...also leading to a helpful discussion for other collectors who have these.
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 Posted 07/04/2023  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list

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Super coins Bob.


Thanks, Ron!


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leading to a helpful discussion


Thanks, my fellow UPenn alumnus.
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 Posted 07/04/2023  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list

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Yes, that would be Orodes III according to the latest research (van't Haaff).

Thanks, Bob. Comparing the portraits, it sure does look like Orodes III.
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 Posted 07/05/2023  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list
It's a nice looking drachm, Jim.
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 Posted 07/05/2023  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
Those silver tets are fantastic, the first one is super sharp! I still have an AE tet from these guys on my list, I can actually afford one of these. Yours are sharp and I love the toning on the first one, but sure like the art style on the second one!
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 Posted 07/05/2023  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list
Thanks, Chris. Always a pleasure to see you back at your old haunts.
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 Posted 12/30/2024  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list

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This portrait of Kamnaskires V is somewhat unusual, which made the coin especially appealing.


And now published in the most recent KOINON I think. Well done Bob.
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 Posted 12/30/2024  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list
Thanks, Dave. Actually, the new article does include a reference (comparison) to that tet from this thread, but the focus of the essay is a drachm that, sadly, I don't own.

But, yes, the article ("An Unusual Portrait on a Drachm Attributed to Kamnaskires V") was accepted for publication and, although I've not yet received my copy, I do see on the Archaeopress website that the volume is printed and is now available.

Thanks for the acknowledgment!
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 Posted 12/31/2024  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list
Congratulations on the publication, Bob.
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 Posted 12/31/2024  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list
Hey, thanks, Jim.
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