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sorry can't by that theory and I did it already and proved it to myself. Well, I have practiced the ring making, and did not (and would not) consider practicing it on a small cent. Too small to easily handle. The goal is a ring, even if the practice ones are crude. And, if you are ultimately going to make one out of a half dollar, you need to learn how the silver behaves. I like that you did do a dryer experiment...but the results don't prove that every coin that comes out of every dry come out uneven like yours. Was the coin just hanging out with the clothes that were being dried for six months? If so, I'm pretty sure that is not the same situation that happens in a commercial Dryer Coin. By the way, our results were less than steller. But it looked much better than that penny. :) The kids thought it was cool, and we are going to revisit the idea. Edited by steve199
04/03/2009 2:21 pm
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But how they make them into this is a mystery to me. Coop, the rings in your top picture, with the design showing on the inside and outside, are not made by hammering/spooning the rim flat. A hole is cut into the coin first, so it resembles a washer. Then it placed on a ring mandrel (a tapered tool, used for sizing rings), and gently hammered downward around the outside of the "washer" using a rubber hammer. Do that until the the bottom face of the washer becomes the inside of the ring. |
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The coin was done in a Laundromat I said that it was my friends place.The coin was placed in a commercial dryer,
JAZEC
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04/03/2009 3:52 pm
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Thanks for the additional info, Jazz... It is hard for me to believe that someone invented a " Dryer Coin" theory out of thin-air. Hmmmm, what would would a rock tumbler to coins. |
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Conder, I have been given a small handful of coins that were removed from the inside of a commercial dryer in a Laundromat in Myerstown, PA many years ago. So I have seen them first hand right out of the dryer. I can therefore tell exactly what happened to the coins. Mine look just like the ones seen above that are described as Dryer Coins. The coins shown look exactly like coins that I have here:-) As a group, We've been around this horn before, more than once in these forums. These coins were never spooned. This is exactly what happens when the coins get stuck in the fins of a commercial dryer. They are sometimes removed after more than six months of being banged around depending upon when the dryers are serviced. Have Fun, Bill Edited by foundinrolls
04/06/2009 03:17 am
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Well founinrolls I have experimented too and my results were just the opposite so I do not agree and will never agree on your theory. There are others that consider these spooned coins Ken potor is one of them it is just a matter of opinion not fact.
JAZEC
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04/06/2009 10:25 am
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Ok Jazzcoins, if you are so confident in your "theory", then how do you explain the abuse to the obverse and reverse of the coins  And you still have not explained why someone would do it to a cent because a cent would not be good practice for making a much larger coin out of silver- two completely different metals that will react differently. That would be like trying to learn how to repair a car by working on a motorcycle  Not to mention the fact that you are going to mash your fingers multiple times with a hammer trying to tap on a cent due to the small size. Occam's Razor still reigns supreme... |
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  Oh brother! Haven't we seen enough of these to be satisfied with the rather plausible explanation, one which incidentally is supported by Foundinroll's experience and many other documented cases? Not just one single case--but many. Pretty mundane topic to boot. |
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Conder, I have been given a small handful of coins that were removed from the inside of a commercial dryer in a Laundromat in Myerstown, PA many years ago. So I have seen them first hand right out of the dryer. I've seen them right out of dryers too. I'm not arguing that a dryer won't do that because I know it can. (I've seen a dime that was in one so longe the the edges had been beaten and curled so much they nearly met at the center of the coin.) |
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Another interesting thread, I've always refered to these as "tapped" as opposed to "spooned" but that just symantics. I'd never heard of this " Dryer Coin" thing, it's really interesting! One of my club member just recently sent me a 1973 Cent that had rims that were beaten down and thickened, and was the diameter of a Dime. This explains it! I actually wear a 1907 Barber half dollar ring, and am very familiar with these rings. I just couldn't figure out why someone would waste their time with a Cent, thanks for the info! I've been a collector 40+ years and I learned something here already!  ~ Jim |
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Well I have experimented many times as I stated in my previous threads all my results from a Dryer Coin game out bent and distorted not rounded and conformed. My theory still sticks to what I have said in experimental cases. I also spooned a cent which the hole of the cent was large enough to fit on a little kids finger . So that;s why the spooned theory is more logical to believe then a Dryer Coin theory. There are many other experts that call these coins spooned not Dryer Coins and I will name a few if you would like me too. I'm not saying that coins have been placed in a dryer but they do not come out rounded and conformed. A dime is smaller then a cent and I have spooned one to put on my granddaughters little finger. The answer to your question why a cent because a copper ring could be very appealing    JAZEC Edited by Jazzcoins
04/07/2009 10:41 am
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Apart from making your finger green that is! I am not disputing your Dryer Coin experiments Jazz coins, but your photo looks more like a spooned coin. The obverse and reverse show no wear? Before the edges curled over to protect them the flat faces would have been well beaten. This is what gives Dryer Coins that appearance. I would also have thought that to produce the distorted edges of your example there would have had to have been repeated strikes on the same point on the circumference (or very large impacts) rather than the constant, random tapping all the way around associated with a dryers actions. It is this constant tapping at every point on the circumference that ensures a Dryer Coin is perfectly round. A dryer on it's own would struggle to produce the evidence you show here. Unless it was stuck in the machine and repeatedly struck at only a few points, and unable to rattle about freely? Edited by QuickSilver
04/07/2009 10:56 am
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Well my friend that coin was put in a commercial dryer and that was the results so maybe the dryer theory is wrong after all
JAZEC
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Jazz, your coin looks very symmetrical for lack of a better word. Very interesting. Can you post some different photos or different angles. I'm assuming the six month test was painful to wait for. Did you just receive this back from your friend?
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I am not getting into this argument again but. The coins that have the rim as well as the obverse and the reverse marred were in dryers that had a large number of coins stuck inside the fins. They tumble against each other and you can actually hear them if they are in there. When they tumble against each other everything is effected.
If one coin is alone in a fin for awhile, or there are only a small number of coins stuck inside they are not being damaged on the obverse and reverse as much since there are not many other coins tumbling that can cause the damage.
A coin in a fin by itself will only have the edge rounded down.
The experiment done by Jazz is faulty unless a large number of coins was stuck in the fin together, which of course there weren't or he would have said so.
Thanks,
Bill
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04/08/2009 5:36 pm
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