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2007 Idaho Quarter Die Chip - Die Crack Or Pre-Cud?

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 Posted 08/01/2023  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list
Thank you gentlemen!

The funniest thing is that I have had selling it on ebayfor more than I think 5 month and nobody take it because I just put nice die crack and die chip, if I were put pre-cud in the title
im pretty sure it was sell right away.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Very nice long Die Crack and nice Die Chip. That one is huge!
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Thank you @Errers!
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 Posted 08/02/2023  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Just to be clear, a coin cannot really be a pre Cud unless there is a known Cud that matches the so called pre Cud. This coin, the die crack does not go rim to rim so not a pre Cud per say.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list

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Just to be clear, a coin cannot really be a pre Cud unless there is a known Cud that matches the so called pre Cud. This coin, the die crack does not go rim to rim so not a pre Cud per say.
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I wasn't aware of this requirement. Is this requirement spelled out on Cuds-on-coins?
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 Posted 08/02/2023  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

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I wasn't aware of this requirement. Is this requirement spelled out on Cuds-on-coins?

First time I'm reading this too - I've been to CoC and it is not described there.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I don't know if it is on COC, but it is common sense.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
As stated earlier, it is possible that the damaged die was noticed and replaced.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JC Stevens to your friends list

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Just to be clear, a coin cannot really be a pre Cud unless there is a known Cud that matches the so called pre Cud. This coin, the die crack does not go rim to rim so not a pre Cud per say.
John1

Not true, where did you get that info from?
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 Posted 08/02/2023  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Just my common sense. It is just my take on this issue, I guess.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
@John1, from one point of view make sense but in fact is not. Here the definition of an pre-cud:

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A "Pre Cud" is a precursor to most collectible of all die break errors called a Cud. The Pre Cud starts out as a Rim to Rim Die Crack. When the die break starts to show lateral spread and horizontal offset it now becomes a Retained Cud. If the break separates from the die the result is a fully-fledged Cud.


Then what on those modern presses will be never pre-cud? Think that if in this case the Anvil was come to point to be change they at Mint change also the Hammer. Today the Dies go by pairs and if one is out of parameters, then the other is change automatically.

Interesting point of view.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list
Thank you @Dearborn @Hondo Boguss @Coinfrog @silviosi @John1 @Petespockets55 @Dowhat @JC Stevens @jbuck.

Now I'm more confused than before

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 Posted 08/02/2023  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list

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Now I'm more confused than before


Maybe more confused but owner of the coin LOL.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list
Oh @Silviosi you make my day with that comment
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