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1. Wish all the new collectors here would use it. The number of confused posts here that could be saved by someone just checking Wexler's is immense.
2. No. Absolutely use it.
3. Not really. You just get better at using the resources that are out there efficiently as you do it more.
4. Variety Vista, Wexler's, and Coppercoins are the three main sites for varieties. In general, they have more or less the same information presented in different ways with different indexing, but there are certain things that will be on one site but not another because it simply hasn't been submitted to all three sites yet. For errors, check out error-ref.com for information on general error types and what they look like. For die events, maddieclashes and cudsoncoins are useful resources as well.
5. That really depends, but I find that in general, Wexler's keeps more up-to-date information on ultra-modern coins, while VV and CC lag behind a bit in attributions for the latest dates.
Edit: as E&V said, crdievarieties is also good. It was founded by Billy Crawford, a renowned variety expert, and passed to Tanner Scott, who recently took over Wexler's as well. I don't know if he plans to merge the listings or keep them separate. Tanner is one of the most knowledgeable users here on the forum, and goes by Tanman2001
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09/21/2023 12:14 pm
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Forgot to mention CONECA for nickel DDO / DDR. For whatever reason, nickels and wheat cents appear to be the only functioning sections of their website. |
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I use pcgs coinfacts for most of the varieties I look for, variety vista as second. Coinfacts has full coin pictures and lets you figure out die markers, mint mark positions, etc. The only downside is that it is only for certain recognized varieties.
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It was founded by Billy Crawford, a renowned variety expert, and passed to Tanner Scott Nope, Crawford had nothing to do with it, I created the site. I changed the way varieties were listed there in the past because I thought it would be confused with Crawford's work. I guess that backfired. Most of the dies on CRDieVarieties will probably get added to Wexler's eventually. A lot of them I'd like to rephoto, so it'll take a good amount of time to do that. Edited by Tanman2001
09/21/2023 4:52 pm
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If you are re-photographing the reference coins, might I recommend including a color photo of the entire coin face? That helps to put the features into relative perspective, and is currently only available on PCGS.
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might I recommend including a color photo of the entire coin face? I don't think that would be practical or even useful for most of the varieties that I would be retaking photos of. (Most of the listings on CRDV are extremely minor) I do try to be diligent and find as many die markers on each coin that I can to note and picture on each listing, if your need for full coin pics is for attributing coins yourself. And I just want to say that this rephoto-ing project is for waaay down the line. There's a lot of other things on the site that need to be worked on first. |
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@Tanman my bad! I thought I had heard that somewhere, but must have just gotten some wires crossed
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I'm a strong proponent of full-coin high resolution photos for die variety attributions. I was not aware that coinfacts had such a service. @Willburton, would you please send a link to a recognized variety that is shown on coinfacts? I'd be interested to see how useful their full-coin imaging is for attributions. I've developed my own photo system for doing this work, and it allows me to document my finds and discoveries and gives a high amount of detail on the whole coin to view markers and such. I find it a much better system than photographing individual markers at high magnification. Although the full-coin high res imaging takes quite a bit of work, it's actually easier than taking and processing all those individual images. I have been hosting my high res images over on EasyZoom, which has a zoom tool allowing you to dig down to whatever level of detail you like. That tool is available for any website, but I'm not a web programmer so have never tried to host images myself. If anyone wants to view an example, here is an example of a 1954-S RPM-015 in VEDS. I have been photographing all the VEDS coins I come across since they are very instructive to look at in high resolution. Turns out his is the first VEDS RPM I have found, so I was particularly interested in it. Anyway, here it is: https://easyzoom.com/image/343176/a...?mode=manageContact me for photographic equipment or visit my home page at: http://macrocoins.com |
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PCGS: 1963 5c DDR FS-801That particular DDR is visible on the bottom serifs of Unum, particularly the M. To zoom in really far, you need to select the individual image, then use the little download icon in the upper right corner to get a big image file. Everything is quite visible. I would call it comparable to Variety Vista, except that it's just a full color image without all the notes about specific features and markers.
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09/22/2023 09:49 am
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Thanks for the link. I see now how to navigate on coinfacts, but I also see that there are very few varieties listed. Not sure how useful it is for attributions. You say it's comparable to VV, but I can't see how it even starts to compare.
Contact me for photographic equipment or visit my home page at: http://macrocoins.comEdited by rmpsrpms
09/22/2023 1:40 pm
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The visibility of the specific features on the pictured coins are comparable to Variety Vista. You can easily see the tripling on the 1963 TDR images.
The PCGS catalog of recognized varieties is obviously much, much smaller than the specialized variety sites.
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The PCGS catalog of recognized varieties is obviously much, much smaller than the specialized variety sites. That is the understatement of the year! My specialty is LWC varieties. Looking at the LWC listings on Coinfacts, there are 7 Doubled Dies and 1 RPM listed , and that is for the entire series. I can't see how anyone could use Coinfacts as an attribution tool, unless they simply want to ignore everything. |
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I think you are not navigating the PCGS website correctly. At a quick count for circulation strike Lincoln Wheat Cents, I found 31 varieties for DDO, DDR, mint mark, other. That does not include 45 listed RPM varieties. Almost all of them are Fivaz-Stanton attributed wheat cents. The most efficient way to view all PCGS-attributed varieties for a particular denomination is to open the price guide tool. Along the left side, each year and mint mark combination will have a + expansion for any attributed varieties. I just open the link to each variety in a separate tab. https://www.pcgs.com/prices/detail/.../most-active |
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Your earlier link was for Coinfacts, and that's the website I was referring to. PCGS does indeed recognize the CPG varieties, but that's not Coinfacts, or is it and I am misunderstanding? I checked Coinfacts and only found those few I listed. The original statement about coinfacts was from Willburton, saying he used Coinfacts as his go-to, and variety vista second. At best if you use the PCGS price guide, you can get some reference to the few varieties that PCGS will certify, but I don't see where those are shown on Coinfacts. And honestly, even if every CPG variety was shown, that would be just a few percent of the total varieties shown on VV.
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