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Got it, melt value. I do want to know what were the indicators on this coin that it was actually cleaned? Is it that the shininess is too much for a coin with so many dings and scrapes?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks cleaned to me. With all the scratches, dings and rim damage, it's only worth silver melt value at this point.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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First, the Philly mint produced 53,000,000 of these in 1943. Even if this was a MS60 coin it would still only be worth around $40. Rarity matters greatly when it comes to value. All nicked up, it becomes little more than bullion. I can't tell with my lousy eyes, but if its been in the family along time, a family member may have broken out silver polish to clean it. If you see a bunch of fines lines in the surface then it was cleaned.
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09/19/2023 12:56 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Heavy wear has removed any hint of luster, so that it matters little if this coin has been cleaned on not.
If it has ? been cleaned at sometime in the past, it has long since patinated over whatever may have been the surface characteristics before.
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It does appear to be cleaned or even buffed/polished at one point in time. John1  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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For me, the pics are too dark to see surface details clearly.
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Got it, melt value. I do want to know what were the indicators on this coin that it was actually cleaned? Is it that the shininess is too much for a coin with so many dings and scrapes? Basically what you posted. If a coin had circulated it would have had some patina/toning. This coin is all scratched and dinged up and is so shiny it hurts my eyes  , chances are good (99%+) that it was cleaned even with the blurry pictures. Look at the below, you can see the hairline scratches from a cleaning.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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It looks like it has been on the buffing wheel for a while. Pocket coins also get that appearance, but it takes many years of constant handling.
I've tried to break that polished appearance, but it's very difficult to get rid of. The best way I've found is to throw the coin in a rock tumbler with lots of grit and sandblast it away. Afterwards the surface of the coin has a dusty matte appearance.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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09/19/2023 10:21 am
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United States
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My opinion is that it has been cleaned. Usually I expect a coin with this much wear to have a gray appearance, not shiny and even like this.
The way it was described to me years ago by someone at a coin shop (and whether it's true or not, it stuck with me) is that original luster is like the surface of the ocean when the ocean is wavy. It reflects light no matter what direction you look at it from. When the luster wears away, the coin is no longer reflective unless it's been cleaned or had lots of chatter as a pocket piece. And then, it won't reflect light from all angles like the ocean would.
I have a 1964 Kennedy (bought holed) as a keychain, and it is reflective from lots of contact, but as a mirror might be. Only from certain angles.
Just my opinion here.
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09/19/2023 7:53 pm
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I could have been polished at some point
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pretty much just a bullion coin at this point.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks for the replies. I have looked closely at the coin and based on what has been posted in this thread, I have concluded that the coin has been buffed/polished. This has been a very helpful thread to me. Thanks!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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We've all been there - that's how we learn.
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Pillar of the Community
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Poor kid. Emmanuel got his face scrubbed all over!  Maybe just use shampoo next time.  That said, I wonder if people typically clean coins to get rid of patina? |
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I wonder if people typically clean coins to get rid of patina? I grew up in the era when mom and grandma polished the silver. It was logical to do the same to your coins. Tarnish was bad, shiny was good. That may have been the case here. |
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